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  • The point of the thread is that many people now think that cost of american dream is greater than the opportunity, and the balance is tilting in favor of other countries. Everyone makes their own assessment. No point in getting personal about it. Just a suggestion..using phrases like "suck blood out your body" will just reduce the effect of your argument.

    And Do you (canadian wanna be) have any clue that to get respected salary and position you will be forced by illiterate Canadians to have "Professional Engineering Certificates"... It will suck blood out of your body for 5 years... So just do not read "Greener Side" of Canadian Immigration... I know it may not be applicable to all but more or less most of will have to face the same music in their careers. My all Canadian friends and relatives want to be Americans.. Only some of them practically could proceed for that.. After some stage of life it becomes hard to move families.. That is the reason they are facing now to take decision and simultaneously do not want to live in Canada anymore.. If you have 101 fever it will take 1 month to have Doctor's appointment... GST.. Higher taxes.. statistically there are chances "Most of members of this forum - Canadian Wanna Be" will have less promotions and/or increments in salary eventhough they will find themselves most skilled wherever they will work. Top posts would be the dream for most of you guys unless you start your own business.. if you understand what I am trying to tell... In USA it is not that way.... Having said this I can not say that everybody will experience the same what I am trying to portray but most fo them will.





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  • I have the same question. State dept moves the date just so that the visa numbers are used for that category. If a category is retrogressed, then it can't really be "undersubscribed".

    This was listed at the bottom of the page in the March VB in state dept's website:

    The cut-off date movement for March in several Employment categories has been greater than those experienced in recent months. Advancement of the cut-off dates at this time should prevent a situation later in the fiscal year where there are large amounts of numbers available but not enough time to use them. If the expected increase in CIS number use materializes, future cut-off date movements could slow or stop.

    Mods should merge two identical threads. See my post in the other thread:
    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=222365&postcount=12





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  • Unless IV request DOS for a quarterly spillover DOS would not do it. All the good things that happenned in the last 2 years were because of IV involvement starting with the July Fiasco when USCIS accepted 485 applications, I am sure the report published by USCIS about the pending 485 was done because of the FOIA filed by IV.

    A quarterly spill over is advantageous to every body in the playing field.

    It is obviously good for retrogressed groups. It is even good for CIS, since they can plan their work properly and use up the visas in an orderly fashion.

    So if IV can use some of its massive clout to convince DOS to do a quarterly spill over, that would be win-win for all.





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  • A good site dedicated to class actions
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    These are particularly interesting:

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  • Dude, Read Vivek Wadhwas findings carefully. He wants the best and the brightest to be provided unlimited visas. I agree with him completely. He is not for perpetual fraud and wage destruction as proferred by the outsourcing companies. Next time when you quote a defence, atleast quote something that supports your case not the opponent's :-)

    You are contradicting yourself in your arguments. One one side you say you are highly skilled on the other you say you are worried about depressing wages for citizens like YOU. If you were so competitive, why would you worry about competition.

    If farmer grassley's bill passes through, you are the one who is going to lose your job (if you are still working at MSFT). Balmer has already threatened to move the jobs out of the country if Mr Change goes along with his protectionist policy.

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=345899&postcount=1

    BTW none of us on this forum favors outsourcing. Whether you like it or not, nobody can prevent outsourcing. Even if corn farmer's bill survives, outsourcing will go on. If you are looking for job security, you need to change what you do for living. This applies to all of us on this forum as well.

    Could unions stop the shifting of manufacturing jobs to China. You are living in the capitalist capital of the world. Don't think companies will help you cling to your job just because you want them to.

    BTW you claim only 20% of H1Bs are genuine. How did you arrive at this figure. Have you interviewed each and every candidate who received H1Bs ?

    You seem to be echoing anti-immigrant's concerns. Antis also complain that MSFT product quality has been going down since they started hiring H1Bs. I guess they were complaining about people like you.





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  • Hi Keeme,

    My post was not about double standards BUT about opposing terrorism, it doesn't matter if its LTTE, KHALISTAN, TALIBAN or any other organisation which terrorises the society. These terrorists outfits should be handled beyond any religious, linguistic or any other consideration.
    Regarding support for common man/community, we should oppose any human rights violation against any individual/community, there shouldn't be any double standards BUT at the same time action against terrorist outfits should not be compromised.





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  • Let's look at the following news items

    "If Pepsi is banned in India, I would go to the US and drink it� - SRK in 2006. This shows that SRK is nothing but a money minded freak who'll do anything for big bucks.

    "SRK was cleared in 66 minutes, say US officials". This shows the true picture of the incident and whatever happened was routine and nothing was intended to single out SRK.

    "I was questioned for two hours"- SRK. This shows the dishonesty and exaggeration of the incident, which the actor feels has hurt his ego. It's like "Mommy! US has pinched me OOOOO"

    "I don't feel like stepping on American soil any more, but it is the love and affection of millions of his fans in the US which would bring him to this country again and again." - SRK. It's like "I don't feel like eating Ice-cream anymore. But since you all fans want me to eat it, I'm gonna eat it again and again"

    "Cabinet minister suggested a "tit-for-tat" policy toward Americans traveling to India". This shows that we don't have any brains of our own and a "tit-for-tat" policy is intended more as a revenge rather than a matter of national security.

    "Angry fans in the northern city of Allahabad shouted anti-U.S. slogans and burned an American flag." This shows the ignorance, illiteracy and hero worship that's rampant in India.

    "India to take SRK detention issue strongly with US ". This shows that the govt. of India has got no better things to do, but feels that VIP treatment to movie stars is more important than nation's security. Moreover SRK visit to US was purely personal to promote his film and has got nothing to do with govt. of India.

    "21 farmers end lives in 40 days in Andhra". Is anyone looking into this? Helooooo.





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  • Is there certain minimum numbers of days one has to stay with the sponsoring company after getting the Green Card.
    In my case I have been working with my current employer since Sept-2001 (almost 7 years).
    Green card labor started in Dec-2001 and I-485 was filed in May and approved June, 2008.

    I was in the middle of using AC21 just before my GC got approved, hence this urgency.

    I think if you are with the employer and your GC got approved. You probably ought to work for the employer atleast for 6 months to one year. If you could have used AC 21 already before approval then things would have been different.





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  • I don�t get the point? If somebody comes here on visitor visa and files for 485 or people here illegally flip over to EB blah blah blah then you fix the loophole, you just don�t kill the 485 measure. If you have a brain tumor then you surgically remove the tumor. You just don�t cut of the head. Your solution to oppose 485 seems similar to that. What about the people who have been waiting for for a couple of years to get the labor and I140 cleared and cannot apply for 485 now, If you get laid off without 485 you don�t get AC21 provisions to get a similar job and the whole process is gone down the drain. Why are you worried about somebody who might do something in future when you don�t even want to bother about the people who would benefit from 485 measure right now and right here?

    As you yourself suggested people from India (eb2 and eb3) should not worry about looking at Visa bulletins for the next 10 years because at current pace it will take at least 10 years. There is no company in USA in technology field which will keep you in the same position for 10 years. And you are opposing 485 on some loophole, so if I am reading between the lines people from India who have not yet applied for 485 might as well pack there bags and go back to India. Thanks a lot for your delightful insight!!!!!


    Don't shoot the messenger.

    A couple of studies came to mind recently that don't involve immigration.

    In Florida there was a plan over 30 years ago to build an artifical reef by planting 2 million tires. Seemed like a good idea but didn't serve its intended purpose and did the exact opposite. Now, 30 years later the person who pushed to do this is saying it was a mistake. There has been so much damage caused by this and now 30 years later they want to fix it. It wasn't studied enough and it was implemented and became a disaster.

    In 1999 at Laguardia airport there was a push to allow smaller airlines some space at the airport; even though the airport couldn't accomodate more airlines/flights. There was strong opposition but they did it anyways. Since then; it takes more then 45 minutes from the time your flight leaves the gate to actually get airborn. The flight time from Laguardia versus into Laguardia has a differential of almost an hour. Now; eight years later they are going to try to fix this. Even though it has been a problem for this long. Wasn't studied or thought of carefully enough.

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    Some people are of the opinion that people who have EAD and 485 pending should just shut up because they are enjoying the benefits of it. Well guess what; some of the biggest whiners are the people who have 485 pending but still want to do priority date transfer; are afraid of job loss; are afraid to change jobs, etc.

    Becuase of country cap of 7%; someone filing from ROW in eb3 in 2007 will get ahead of you in line; even though you are from india and a priority date in 2001. Currently, the limitation of ROW people is that they haven't designed a system to get h-1b so they will try to go the b-1 to greencard route.

    People who want to get citizenship badly. Once they get citizenship; what is one of the first things they do? apply for parents greencard or find a spouse and file their greencard (no waiting). For people here on h-1b or greencard and they want babysitters they get their parents on b-1 and try to extend, etc., but eventually parents have to go back. Now; without priority date being current they also come into the stream by filing a labor 140/485 while they are here.

    therefore, you may have a 485 filed but if it is going to take you 10 to 20 years to get the greencard; can you hold onto a same/similar job for that long? Do you think the next step of increasing the quota will come in six months? See my example of Laguardia airport; flight jams since 1999 and now eight years later they are going to decide to attempt to fix the issue. I used to be a frequent traveller and i can't even begin to tell you how inconvenient it is for business travelers to have that type of wait.

    To give you an example; I will post an example of someone on visitor visa trying to get greencard (note; this was a personal e-mail that was sent to me;just in case there are doubters).





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  • As you know, spouse and minor children's applications for AOS are filed with Primary Applicant. Minor children are those under 21 years of age. Once the child turns 21, they are no longer eligible to file AOS wih primary applcant. However, there is a Child's Protection Act that allows the time that it takes (# of days) to process the I140 to be subtracted from the child's age when he /she turns 21. Example - if it takes 128 days to process the I140, the child turns 21 but is considered 21 years minus 128 days. Provided you can file AOS in within 128 days of the child turning 21 then he/she is considered a minor.
    The key is being able to file the AOS. That "stops" the clock. Technically, the child's AOS should be adjudicated by 21 and there is an opportunity to expedite the application for this very reason. From what I understand however, as long as the AOS is filed, the clock stops ticking. That is what every lawyer we have used along the way has told us.

    MACACA - pls see your PM...





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  • Signs and Warning...

    1. Mostly he seems to be a weird guy.
    * God has given us special white blood cells that can find these guys.
    * Listen to your inner soul when it says 'I don't feel comfortable'.

    2. He walks with empty hands (RICH people) while all others in the shop walk with a cart and/or some goods.

    3. Talks loudly, using words as if he is lending money to Warren Buffett or Bill Gates..

    4. His approach.
    * Are you Mr.<a name in south/north depends on your appearance>?
    * I can't believe I meet you here.
    * You look very familiar to me.
    * You look like my younger brother / son / daughter / friend / father / mother / cousin / tomato / carrot / spinach etc

    5. Look for these words...
    * Do you want to make LOT of money? (eventhough he looks like a crap, wandering in a grocery store not buying anything, driving a 1990 Toyotta Tercel).
    * I have a wonderful business opportunity for you.
    * What do you do in your free time?
    * I am running a eBusiness, eCommerce etc.
    * Do you want to make use of your free time in a productive way.
    * Count the number of times he uses the word 'Money', if it is more than 2 times, he is from that cult.

    6. Finally,
    * Can we meet sometimes this week?
    * Do you want to attend a Business Meetting (!) with top heads next week?
    * Do you want to just see what we are doing? (Why the hell I need to see?)
    * Do you want to join us for a Tea, Cofee... (Believe me, they won't call you for Lunch or Dinner, eventhough they always talk about the LOT OF MONEY they have made)


    I read lot of news from school and I learnt this 'multi-link' business 20 to 25 years back. So as soon as he asked me if I wish to make 'LOT OF MONEY' without working, I understood that the poisonous snakes had entered US long time back.

    I had only one encounter 10 years back that went up to the so called 'Business meeting with Tea Party' because I was new to US and these guys were using an updated terminology.

    From then on, I enjoy if I meet such people in Malls, grocery stores, Walmarts. I let him talk for about 20 - 30 mins when my wife is shopping. Asking him very basic questions as if I have not seen a $10 bill in my life. By the time he realizes that I am playing, my wife finishes shopping and we leave.

    This way you can keep yourself updated on the tricks. Amazingly these guys read technology news a lot than us and upgrade their techniques.





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  • I have been following this thread for last couple of days and I feel I need to make few points. I remember when this amway/qucikstar thing started several of my close friends got entangled and tried to involve me. However, every time I bailed myself out by clearly mentioning to them "Right now, making lot of money is not in my top priorities. I want to focus on my carrier." Fortunately, I was able to fend off the proposals and clearly make my point.

    In this thread, several of you are mentioning to ridicule, diminish, embarrass, and even socially out casting an amway/quickstar member. I feel its going a little bit too far. If you dont like to be in the amway/quickstar business stay clear of it, nobody will be able to force you in it. Setting up anti-amway websites, sharing names of the "bugging" amway members, distributing their phone numbers, and destroying their social reputation is harming the person personally, not the amway/quickstar business. We all know by now the amway/quickstar is a scam, majority of its signed members end up losing valuable time and money. How do you feel if some of your mentioned action emotionally push a distressed person off the cliff. Think about it a bit !!!





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  • Bud,

    TN is just a modified H1B. You need to have an employer, your wife will be on a TD and worse, you gotta renew it every year across the border.



    You need not give up your American Dream. Once you get your Canadian Citizenship, you can work in US indefinetly with TN visa.





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  • I am analyzing for EB-2 (India). The current date for EB-2 India was Apr 1 2004 for month of June.

    Retrogression started Oct 1 2005. Before Oct 1 2005, persons with PD < Oct 1 2005 (remember PERM) could have submitted I-485. Some (not all remember namecheck) of these would be ready for adj June 1st 2007. These applicants can be divided into 2 categories: those with PD <= Apr 1 2004 and those with PD > Apr 1 2004.

    Applicants in first category will get GC in June and applicants in 2nd category will get GC in Jul. These applicants can exhaust 2007 quota.

    USCIS is taking 3 weeks for notification of 485's submiited in June. I would be very surprised if they process a June submission in < 3 months. So chances of June applicant using GC number are low.

    USCIS knew # applicants in above 2 categories: this appears trivial. If these applicants exhaust 2007 quota, USCIS knew that quota will get exhausted in Jul. The date can be of their choosing since the work involved must be pretty low.

    A similar analysis can be done for any other category. Correct me if my dates are wrong.





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  • If all IMV memebers ever come to form a political party, people like you should be avoided. For you it's all love for YSR..where as for others it's not about YSR or CBN. It is about there values and what they stand for against (corruption, blood politics, land grabbing and so forth..)


    Since you dont have your GC details filled in your profile, I would assume your interest in this website is not related to immigration. You might come back arguing that your GC process is about to start or this is public forum and anyone can post anything.

    Now, looking at the pattern of your postings, you seem to bash YSR, Jagan clan of people. (Not that I like them)..It looks like you have other political interests in this bashing as against genuine concern for people, 'coz you dont seem to acknowledge that TDP is a corrupt party. I am sure you are a pro-TDP, pro-NTR,NBK(iether by caste or whatever).

    If what I think you are is what you are, then its people like you who are responsible for the rise of these kind of politicians.





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  • nixstor,
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  • Good one

    With your attitude, you will not even become millionaire in Zimbabwean dollars.:D:D:D





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  • You guys see everything wrong with us. If the spouse works, you will say they are taking away your jobs. If they study, you say that they pay instate fees where as you pay international fee. If they do MBA and become your manager, you will say that not only they are getting jobs, now they are bossing over us. If they stay at home, you will find wrong with that too saying that they are not doing anything but are getting all the benefits..

    It does not matter if spouses stay at home and lose years of salaries which translates to more than the international fees that some people pay. It does not matter that we have to face hurdles in each and every step of the way, be it when getting medical insurance or life insurance or while traveling. We have to renew visas every year by paying thousands, we have to renew our licences. We have to go for visa stamping even if we have gone for an emergency visit. We have to remain in the same job without growth, without promotion. Do you know it is not easy for a H4 person to get a credit card to start building credit history?.

    If you have a solution to reduce all of our pain without increasing the waiting time for ROW people say it here cause that is what we need and what USCIS will appreciate. You do not have to bring corruption and all that crap into picture. That can be another discussion. If I have to pay fees to get some things faster then I will call it nothing but organized bribery within legal framework. That is what is happening in countries which you say is less corrupt, but then why do you care, you enjoy your soccer game....

    NKR, my friend, i'm puzzled, u speak of in-state tuition, visa stamping, life insurance.. how is that different for ROWs from others, we are all the same in that, we are all the same being skilled immigrants all of us, when i complain that someone says indians and chinese are here in larger numbers because they are best and brightest and ask them to be sensitive it doesn't mean that we all suffer the same hardships.. when i state the fact that bodyshops contributed to the longer lines for some countries i don't say i'm indifferent to your suffering, but i also say it can't be fixed by making another group suffer
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  • I am estimating around 75K EB2 AOS approvals this year. Please check my analysis here. The analysis is based on statistics, testimonies, and spill over from FB to EB as estimated by Ron Gother. The analysis was couple of months old. I believe it still stands.

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=246481&postcount=1422

    Apart from total number of EB2 visas this year, one thing that is crucial here is how many visas are already used up. And thus how many visas are left for this year.

    In the USCIS testimony, it was stated that they already used up 65% of the "target" in 5 months. Assuming, they used up atleast 30% more in next 5 months, there is only 5% to 10% of visas left over from their "target" number of visas. Did their "target" included spill over? No one knows. Knowing that will put us in better position to estimate the PD progress.

    Though the EB2 moved until June 2006, I am hoping that most of the people before 2005 March should get approved. In that case, even if it retrogresses, it will fall back to March 2005. Once we reach March 2005, we have all statistics from DOL. So, would be easier to estimate.





    I guess many have mentioned this before.

    Diversity should not be based on "country" as well. For example I can easily say that "India" has to be considered as "20 different countries", if it divided based on diversity. And probably many of the europian countries combined should be "1 country".

    Means if the diversity quota is 100 per year, to call for proper diversity.....
    2000 for India...
    100 for many of the european countries combined....

    (Note: I didn't mean "ALL of europe", I know that whole Europe is pretty diverse as well...)

    Country based "diversity" doesn't make sense at all.

    We are not discussing justifications of US laws. We are trying to find ways within the existing laws, for speeding up our cases.





    few suggestions:

    1. can we add reference to a recent Greenspan wallstreet journal interview in which he said this could be the best immediate solution for increasing home sales.

    http://www.nysun.com/editorials/greenspans-solution/84056/

    2. mention somewhere in proposal that person should be employed with a US corp for something like at least > x years (to make it more real)



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