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  • The sooner LC substitution goes away the lesser we have to deal with such questions. And the sooner we would get our green cards.



    hi All,

    Can someone give me advice on this:

    I have 4 yrs Bachelors + 6.5 yrs of IT exp. i am being offered a Pre- approved labor(EB3-PD-Nov.2003), which was filed for someone with a condition-Bachelors + 4 years exp., at the time of filing.
    i graduated in June 2000, so i am about 1 year short for the 2003 PD. However i did some part time work during college in India and the lawyer says if i can get exp. letter from that company on a letter head, that should suffice.
    i am concerned if that India exp. during graduation will work or not.
    Has anyone faced a situation like this?
    the (part time exp)company was very small, can this be risky? what do you guys think?

    Thanks.





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  • dealsnet,

    You picking on CHANDUV23 is unwarranted. You lack debating skills. Do you have a argument to make against "unprecedented political killings, govt and personal land grabbing, corruption, and opportunistic politics of YSR" ?

    Wow supporting to your own alias comments... And on top of it creating multiple IDs to increase your reputation.

    Is this not how you break the system????....This is called Corruption my friend....

    I can't help myself Laugh the hell out your stupid behavior ....LOL





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  • I worked for the company X for 5 Years . During this period My labor was approved in PERM in EB3 PD 05/15/2006. My I - 140 was alos approved Sep 2006 in EB3. I left the company X & started to work for another technology company Y. In July of 2007, I applied for the I-485 via Company X based on Future employment. I-485 is pending since July 2, 2007. Also applied for EAD & Advance parole which latter got approved. Meanwhile, I have an old labor pending with Company X which got approved with PD of Jan 23, 2003 in EB 2 Category. Company X applied for I-140 based In EB2 PD Jan 2003. This I -140 got approved in May 2008. Company X requested Interfiling with USCIS. Meanwhile I Changed jod & started working for company Z with H1B Transfer.

    Here are my questions:
    Can I revoke AC21 with my new company Z?
    What happens if Company X closes before my I-485 is approved or an RFE is received.
    What should I do to minimize risk in getting Green card. Note that Company X is not in a very Good financial position currently.

    Your response is aapprciated.





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  • June 6th.

    Does someone know what date in June they started turning back EB3-Other WOrkers?





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  • Boss, you will realize the importance when you are told that you are NOT ELIGIBLE for a driver license in this country and they will ask you to get a cab to work or WALK to work.

    Emotional Bravado Talk is a poor substitute to calm ruthless analysis approach.

    Why don't you sue DMV or Michigan congress (if possible).


    If the supporters of lawsuit are really enraged as they claim to be then there next post will be detailing their conversations with Rajiv Khanna, hopefully making a case for a lawsuit. They will have to put the down payment of ~600 dollars.

    Until then this lawsuit loose talk will remain just that , loose talk . Fit to be dismissed.





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  • As per Macaca's logic, pre Oct 2005 PDs will take up all the numbers available for EB2 Indai for 2007, in June and July.

    Not all numbers for 2007. Only numbers that were left before June 1st.

    How many numbers are for EB-2 (India)? I think 2800.





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  • Can somebody delete the threads where there is a question of sub. labor, I thought we are an organisation trying to reduce the backlog and not to advice how to increase it .





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  • no comments so far ? and this thread is still visible ..so I guess either people have given up or no one cares (this is weekend ..so I guess less people online).
    but I will repeat one last time ..if we cannot link housing and immigration ..then I don't see how anything else can help (can someone educate me).
    for eg if we say US is losing talent and brains are leaving ..then I don't think anyone will care especially when economy is down (many natives will be happy I guess).
    lawsuits will not help as USCIS will show that they are following law and/or they are understaffed / underfunded.
    - flower campaigns or writing to USCIS only will only help flower companies / postal department
    flower / letter campaigns help ..but we need a clear plan and lets do brainstorming or atleast show some activity !!
    ---------
    before someone jumps ..let me clarify that I am not suggesting that immigration will solve the housing problem totally ..but immigrants do constitute a very important segment of buyers.
    - we don't have to suggest increasing immigrant quota ..but only recapture and tell that these people are already in USA ..majority of them will get GC one day or the other ..this will just speed up the process so that people can settle / buy houses faster
    - I don't think u can come up with law saying if u buy house u will get GC ..focus should only be on faster GC and processing ..faster decision is helpful to US too ..as those whose cases will be denied due to law breaking etc ..will be denied sooner.
    and hence no distinction between those who are renting and those who are already owners

    Not only are immigrants an important category of buyers, but the few who took the leap of faith in this country and bought, might actually be forced to sell into a down market and exacerbate to pressure if this mess is not sorted out.
    This current inaction is a dumb policy in many ways IMHO. I hope visa recapture happens soon. If they want to slow down immigration, they ought to do it at the F1/H1b/L1 level/Labor certification. Not at the 485 stage, which is what visa recapture legislation is all about.





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  • I agree with what you said except I would add those past mid 2004 instead of 2005 as hopeless situation in eb2 india. I dont think the Eb2 India will ever move past March/april 2004. Infact with every visa bulletin the EB2 india dates will start moving backward to 2003-2002. One silver lining is Eb3 to eb2 porting will be completely useless. It now takes atleast 6 monts for perm to clear( this is the best case), EB2 is almost impossible to get, if you take a risk and apply in eb2 almost gaurenteed for audit. atleast now we have a clear picture of how many decades(no pun intended) it takes for eb2 and eb3 India to get there green card. My guess is obama\durbin\grassley are figuring out how to kick us out. I remember one of the tactics that the conservatives proposed for kicking out the illegals was to make it difficult for illegals to get employed by imposing heavy fines on employers for hiring illegals. Obama durbin and the democrats are using the same tactics with just a minor difference, instead of illegals they (obama\durbin et al) are going after legals by issuing RFE on EVL even for 485 etc etc etc. Basically they want to haress and make us so dejected that we will leave US and they can keep our social security taxes for wealth redistribution. most of us (atleast the people who graduated out of US universities) gave the prime part of our lives for this country, now we are being treated like we are not even humans. How can anybody work in US for 10+ years and still not have a green card and face the possibility of being kicked out.

    Ok, the guy that sets the dates says that he sees no possibility of dates moving forward for EB India and ppl are still thinking there is hope? I am an optimist and try to see the brighter side - and that side here is that we know there is no hope for those past 2005 in the next two years. That to me is sufficient to make decisions and move on. Be it changing to a different job or going back to the home country - most probably the former for me.





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  • Totally Agree with your assumptions, there are few more that can be added like

    Some 3-5% people with PD 2005 - 2006 are already approved (as low hanging fruits) during 2008 Aug-Oct period.

    Also recent span of RFE's by USCIS (for preadjudication) resulted in flushing out of some applications

    In short pending EB2 numbers that you are taking into account will be 10 to 20% less and available visa numbers from spill overs will be 20 to 30% more than what you projects. So forward movement will surely be there.

    However there is a doubt related to spill overs every quarter !!
    Allocations are surely made on quarter to quarter basis but there is no certain precedence in the past for spill overs, well i would say the past has been shady

    I recall once VB where EB2 I was giving numbers from EB1 and this was before the last quarter (happened in FY 2008). We have to wait till Dec, 2009 Bulletin.




    The analysis is very optimistic and does not account for

    Duplicates (multiple I-485 for same person)
    Discarded Labor (many people just discard the perm since they switch jobs or did not want to do GC)
    Upgrades (people had EB2 perm but got GC in EB1 category)
    Cross-chargeability (with spouse of PERM hold birth from non retrogressed country)


    If they all makeup to 10-20% of applicants then the PD will move much faster.





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  • If these numbers are to be believed, then EB2-I could advance till Dec 2005 with ease by Dec bulletin, though some stats for Feb & March 05 (regular labor) also needs to be analysed...

    Dude, we need to take into account the thousands of EB3 I -> EB2 I conversions :(





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  • The problem lies with entire GC process being Employer-centric. Employee is just a pawn in the game. Employers can do whatever they want. The market test for LCA conducted by DOL itself is so ridiculous. How would a test conducted in 2002 be any relevant for a Greencard application that would be approved six or eight years from that date?





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  • You dont even talk about my village even in your dreams.. Our village is much happier than before 5 years.. Its all becuase of YSR did for our village.

    Only the people that were part of those grabbings are happier. Let the poor people get back all their lands first and then you guys talk.

    How about all the "Anna's" that were killed by him who came to him when he invited and then killed them mercilessly.

    So, did you mourn when he killed all the "Anna's"? I am sure you would have distributed Sweets when "Anna's" were killed. Right?

    Isn't it Jesus Christ right? Jesus is God and he punished YSR with such a worst killing. Even face could not be recognized.





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  • Agree 100%.

    very good points.
    this is what we do till infinity ...discuss discuss discuss.
    open more threads, discuss discuss discuss.
    end.
    we discuss more than the congress.

    let us come with small numerous campaigns to highlight the contributions of legal immigrants..atleast that will prevent people from getting bored





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  • why doesn't anyone in iv core get it dammit..... this is crystal clear..... what more do u want...... now get mov'in & get green cards for all of us by next week..... :rolleyes:



    Good Things about IV
    1. IV Core does not conduct its business in the forum. They learnt this lesson a long time ago.
    2. All their work is done in the donor forum and behind the scenes by volunteers
    3. If they feel that any idea is worth pursuing they invite that person (with the idea) behind the scenes and pursue that idea
    4. All the work is done by IV members themselves because they are helping themselves
    5. IV members are investing time and money to do work which impacts a large number of immigrants
    6. That is a professional way to do stuff and i admire the way work is done at IV

    Concerns of IV
    1. IV always states about the lack of will of people to do something for themselves
    2. IV always states that people just comment on forum but do not step forward to do stuff
    3. IV always says that people do not donate enough and without donation a grassroot organization will not survive

    What IV is doing wrong
    1. IV talks about a holistic approach whereby the benefit to EB community will trickle down and once EB2 will become current EB3 will get benefit of spillover
    2. IV is assuming EB2 will become current but with the number of indians coming to USA and number of indian students who will graduate from MS courses in USA over the next 5 years EB2I will always be backlogged
    3. Plus we are not even talking about EB2 ROW and EB3ROW demand which could go up
    4. Supporting the DV 55k bill to US educated GC applicants on the whole looks like a great plan. Sure here are 55k and here are about 150 k GC applicants. 150 - 50 IS 100 K. So if the bill passes we reduce the backlog by 50 k. Now i will am one of the person who will be getting a GC because i am US educated but my opposition to this bill is on principle
    5. What IV has to realise is that it is not only IV members specifically but it is a whole lot of non IV members who are EB3 who have been a bigger person in this whole immigration retorgression advocacy scheme of things till now.

    How let me explain. We have seen EB3 persons from 2002 who are still waiting for GC and who are not getting spill over visas because EB2 is using up all the spill over visas. So do you see any EB3 now complaining about the rule change supported by IV and made by USCIS whereby EB2 gets spill over visas. NO we do not see any EB3 complaining. That is because EB3 as a whole understands that that rule in the past being interpeted in a wrong way and the current way is the correct interpetation. Sure the old method gave EB3 some extra spill over visa benefit but the new interpetation caused EB3 to dry up compleletly. Now that in itself is against the very nature of self preservation by definition, But EB3 went along for the greater good

    What IV can do right
    1. Now we have this 55K DV Bill. This is something different from the spillover (which is law and cannot be changed). This is one time oppurtunity to alieviate the sufferings of EB group as a whole. So can IV which is supposed to be talking for the whole EB community do the right thing here and ensure (with advocacy they are so good at) that IV's stand is that 55K visa are given to all GC applicant from retrogressed countries based on oldest priority date first irrespective of EB2 and EB3.

    2. The concequence of such a move is that long retrogressed EB applicants will get relief (Which is one of the point IV talks about in their charter)
    3. Sure Many US educated applicants from EB2 and EB3 will oppose this move because lets face it, this move impacts their getting GC sooner. And if they behave like that they are in the same category as EB2 guys on this forum who do not entertain any idea which will impact their getting GC soon.

    What wil happen if IV does the above
    1. The DV 55K bill will NEVER pass in congress. This along with the other bills we have seen will bite the dust because no one in the current economic scenario would like to see more immigrants (US educated or not)

    2. The DV 55K bill will fail but IV would have achieved what it has failed to do till now. Get the support of EB3 community which they claim to represent.

    Synopsis
    How how does this work. This is a suggestion for discussion NOT a diktat to IV core to implement. If IV core does not allow discussion on this (and moderate this because frankly some of your existing advocacy group members and volunteers do not know what a discussion is and come out both fists swinging) then that is IV core perogative. they have that right since this is their system and they worked hard for it, and they believe what they say is right.

    One question i do have for all the members who have argued with me here. Have you seen all the discussion i have participated under and my other posts. Please do that before yelling that i was a member since 2006 and freeloader and all that. You need to do this because if i am you enemy (Scounderal, Liad weed, Anti Immgrant, Future USA etc) then don't you think to know your enemy is better.

    On a funny flip side ...............................
    How will this be treated by the current members
    Ohh He is a liar, cheat, sounderrl, absurer, voilent person, free loader, smooch, weed, Anti Immgrant, future USA and other unspeakable things

    By the way guys i am a She not a He

    Adieu/Ciao





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  • O.K. Forget for a moment about IN,China,MX and Philipines. Let me understand the "Quota" witihin "ROW"

    Example: Britain, Pakistan.

    Let's say next year tons of nationals of Britain Choose to apply under EB.
    Let's say total is more than 7% of Total 1,40,000 limit.

    Is that allowed?

    Same question for Pakistan...





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  • Thanks Thampi, people let us post some more avoidance techniques to be used subtle or not, this is a scourge we need to get rid of.





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  • It is very clear that there is absolutely no meaning for "quota" on 485 applicants.
    They are allowed to continue to stay in US forever, from the date of their application (assuming the case is good, and eventually will be approved, when visa is available).

    So the whole argument about "diversity" or even "controlled immigration" doesn't stand, since the 485 applicants are here permanently "except" for an official "GC card".

    The only thing the "quota" does is creating "uncertainty" in the mind of genuine applicants. This causes less spending, less home buying and eventually causing bad for the US economy. This just creates a second layer of "tax-payers" who have extremely high "purchase power", but doesn't utilize their purchase power, due to "uncertainity"

    I wonder why the politicians doesn't realize this simple fact yet?

    They either shouldn't allow 485's to wait in US (for diversity & controlled immigration claim), or should just remove the quota for 485's, and let them live their lives & utilize their purchase power to help US economy.





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  • Is it your brainwashed mind that is speaking of that






    "..veracity of this statement"
    Sure pick up the phone and dial IRS, or call your accountant. Or your lawyer if you want to play it safe.
    Other people doesn't do or will never do anything, other then wearing pantyhose and tip toeing through the tulips.





    Unused Family Based VSAS are 32k in 2007!!!!
    For 2007 we had an availability of 226,000 Family Based Visas. But the issued visas in 2007 in Family Based are 194,900 visas. That means there are 226,000 MINUS 194,900 = 31100. These 31,100
    unused Family Based Visas have been made available for 2008 Employment Based Visas of 140,000. And USCIS has 28,795 unused VISAS of American Competitiveness in the 21st Century Act of 2000 (AC21).

    That seems to be correct interpretation. This makes me dizzy, too good to be true. :D

    The Family visas spill over is something I couldnt understand. They are retrogressed by > 10 years for many categories. Is that conflicting with spill over? Why would there be spill over with such backlog?

    That's because of per country quotas. There may be millions waiting for 15 years under the brothers and sisters category, but once they hit the country limit they are done. The unused numbers may go to brothers and sisters of petitioners from non-backlogged countries. If not, these numbers will flow to EB.





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