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  • Great idea... The only problem is that even the small group won't show up.
    I volunteer to get whipped - Who will be Uncle Sam?

    Another idea.. (this will require a small bunch of people only)

    Let a group of 10-25 people tie themselves on chainballs and handcuffs (or fetters) and march 1 mile to the USCIS office. Get this event covered by media..
    Hold banners like "Free us", "We want EAD", "i485 NOW" and raise a few slogans

    In addition someone can dress as Uncle Sam and pretend to whip the prisoners....

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  • Lou has branded an entire national communiy in his hate filled rhetoric. I appreciate that good people differ in their views on immigration, but this crosses the line. H1b is "cheap Indian labor" and "overstay their visas" ??
    Lou believes in quoting no facts, just bullishly repeating such views. Nobody who disagrees can ever get a word in. I am a specialist physician with multiple degrees and board certifications. I practice in underserved communities, speak fluent English and pay my taxes. My visa status is and always has been legal. Do I meet the Lou standards? I am waiting in an endless line for a green card that keeps me at the bottom based on my country of birth. So much for Lou's cheap labor! Has everyone forgotten his tacit support for outsourcing in his "other professional life"?
    Shame on CNN for allowing this. I, for one, have no further interest in this channel.

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  • Pappu,

    Reality is DREAM act is directly connected to HISPANIC votes for Democrats, EB community doesnt have any VOTING rights, neither they get any support from the folks who are already GC/UScitizenship holders.

    Once people are out of this GC mess, they all start talking about anti immigration and that's the reality, u go to any indian community around and see how much support you have from those folks who have GC/US citizenship.

    That brings a new point for IV leadership. In line with HISPANIC movement, can we take/seek help from various associations of India/China like the ones in link Indian Associations in the US : NRI Desi Associations in USA : India Social, Cultural, Religious Organisations (

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  • # of votes are less. many people don't know about this?

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  • I do not get it.

    As far as I know, a CP applicant can always switch over to AOS if already inside the US. It is harder for an AOS applicant to switch to CP.

    You will have to make a choice. Do you want the benefits of CP or AOS? The way things are presently, you cannot have both. So pick one.

    But the PD has to be current to switch over.

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  • I like this. Simple and straight to the point. Will use this as a template and make changes. Thank you.

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  • Who said the worries stop at GC? When I am on H1, my family could able to go and come back from my home country when ever they want. There was no restriction on how many days they need to stay in US to keep their status valid. Their H4 status is valid as long as I retain my H1.

    Now after GC, they are mandated to be present in US for 6 months in a year to retain their GC irrespective of my status and they are not happy about it :(

    Some may question what am I doing in IV after GC? Visiting IV is a habit for me and I will be depressed if I don't visit IV for a day :D. I also provide some useful information regarding various immigration issues by learning and passing it on to my friends and relatives and encourage them to come and visit IV by promoting it.

    Anyway I am struck to IV even after I got my GC. I hope many fellow IV's will do the same to bring many people who seek immigration under IV :)

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  • Thanks i will talk to the attorney tomorrow and take an info pass accordingly.

    Take an infopass appt ASAP.

    The officer in the local USCIS office will be able to give more details about your case.

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  • Based on my receipt numbers and looking up on USCIS website, it appears my AOS application that was sent to NSC has been sent to California Center. I have not seen anybody's case being sent to CSC. Dunno how good or bad it is and whether it sppeds up/delays my EAD processing. Anybody had experience with CSC and got any of EAD/AP/GC approved from CSC.

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  • This 6-month wait period after GC is the biggest myth esp among the desi community. I have never heard or seen any problem with citizen ship of anyone who switched job within 6 months of getting GC. If you have GC, you are as good as citizen except a few more rights that come with citizenship so enjoy your independence and work on your career !!

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  • The fine print matters as always:

    "A portion of these cases are both outside normal processing times and have an FBI name check that has been pending for more than 180 days."

    They'll define normal processing times in some weaselly way of course -- like that random date they show in the processing time charts. It is not the normative 6 months timeframe, since the statement implies that an application that has a current PD and has been pending for 180 days (cos its name check is pending for 180 days presumably the application has been pending 180 days) can be "within normal processing times."

    So current PD + 180 day pending namecheck = 47K.

    And current PD + 180 pending namecheck + outside "normal processing times" = 10K.

    The 10K is from the Ron Gotcher post on Imminfo (

    Note that the TSC processing date for EB I-485 moved back to April from May 24, 2007. So the flood of applicants from June are certainly not "within normal processing times" even if they fell out of the BECs and have an early PD, and have a namecheck pending >180 days.

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  • Sadly so... Even saddest part is that many of them dont know about
    it. Any many who knows don't put a fight either...See the result of monthly

    Retrogession and PD not current is a Modern form of Slavery... We are Highly Educated, Law Abiding, Tax Paying Slaves to this broken immigration system

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  • Folks,

    I agree 100% with the previous post person.

    I myself am a PMP. It is very easy to do one, you need to have the right project mgmt experience (PMI may audit it) and you need to prepare for few months and you can clear it easily.

    But the question is, more than the exam it is the practical experience, sometimes this job can be so frustrating and you feel like a sandwich being hit on both sides.

    If you already have a PM experience and you dont have the certification, definetly go for it, it is worth the spending.

    Again remember it expires in 3 yrs , you got to keep renewing your PDUs to stay current... its not like MCSD or MCAD which is for life long...

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  • I can give you my example. 10 years in the US and got greened yesterday. Background -

    B. Tech. from IIT - 1999. Always believed in hard work and dedication.
    2000/2001 - Came to the US
    2003 - Filed labor - RIR - EB3
    2004 - job loss
    2004 - Joined so called fortune 500 company with 15000 + employees and presence in 50 countries. They promised but never filed GC.
    2005 - Filed Canada PR.
    2005 - Quit and joined Desi company. Started GC process on day-1.
    2005- Filed under Perm EB-3 (lawyer screwed). Got approved in 3 months.
    2006 - Filed I-140 got approved in 3 weeks.
    2007 - July Fiasco and filed I-485. Got AP, EAD. Wife started to work.
    2008 - EB-3 sucked so talked to employer to file in EB-2. Desi company did not care as long as I paid for it.
    2009 - Filed labor, got approved in 6 months.
    2009 - Filed EB2 I-140 and requested to re-capture the PD of first labor.
    2009 - I-140 approved, same day saw an LUD on pending I-485. Also, approved I-140 came with A# and EB-3 labor PD.
    2009 - Bought a home.
    2010 - July, dates became current.
    Opened SR, got a response that my case is still in EB3. NSC sucks.
    Asked lawyer to send letter to USCIS. He did, nothing happened.
    Contacted senator and they opened up a congressional request with USCIS.
    Within 2 days, USCIS issued RFE about incomplete medical. It was total BS.
    Contacted doctor and got chest X-Ray and replied RFE.
    Took several Inforpass appointments.
    EAD expired, did everything but could not get renewed on time.
    Did not tell anything to HR about expired EAD, both kept mum and kept working.
    Had fights at DMV to get DL extended.
    Aug-17th, GC got approved.

    Is this all worth it? I do not know. Only reason I joined desi company with 2 employees is that desi company was ready to file GC on day-1. I have seen so called Fortune-xx companies. They lied to me.

    Overall - I am a happy person. Would continue with Desi employer for some more time.

    Now that we have GC, I would like to -
    1. Spend more time with family and not worry about LIN-XXXX numbers.
    2. Think about doing MBA.
    3. Move to a warmer place like CA.

    Good Luck. I would suggest - Talk to your employer and explain your situation. You have nothing to lose.

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  • Thank YOU!!

    Dude, I have been sparring with Pappu and Starsun for quite some time now. IV needs to be a "Paying Members Only" organisation.
    Per some statistics regularly floating around here, IV has 40,000 odd members. A membership fee as small as $1/month!! ($12/year), will INSURE a steady flow of funds, that will make a HUGE difference.
    Even if 20,000 of that 40,000 run away due to the $12.00/yr subscription requirement, that still leaves IV with almost a QUARTER million dollars worth of cash at hand, .

    thats a good idea, and at the same time we also need to show our numbers.
    I would say, lets make this a $5 monthly membership org. IV can help you much more than your Immigration attorney can.
    I'm not aware of any one else who directly deals with USCIS and with chambers of govt.
    Yes focus is needed right now, since after 4 years CIR is off the table and its time for piece meal bills which need renewed campaigning
    Many are a bit selfish just concerned with their particular case and want a quick answer, but don't want to help the high skilled community as a whole.

    you can click on member list and just on top the current count is 45,676

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  • I am not sure how would MBA help if some one is working in IT.

    why not invest in a full-fledged mba instead? It will help you a great deal in your career aspirations.

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  • I have a EB3 India PD of May 2002.. That said, the snippet in the visa bulletin sounds very promising..

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  • I came here in late 2006 and i have applied for 140 & 485 due to LS.
    All i can say for you is angoor khatte hain(grapes are sour for you) since you didnt get it.
    This is what happens to jealous people.

    Anyways, we have played by the rules.
    What do you say about people getting GC by lottery.
    Go and blame the govt for the rules not us.

    Nobody asked you if you did LC Sub. It was one of you who started this thread.

    It all depends how much confidence you have in your application packet. mine had problem and was returned back after 7 weeks.

    tomorrow is the last day to file, for many the window will close for a long time.......

    What I am finding is, there are not enough people to do the really complicated stuff. Because of demand and supply the salaries are going up for folks that do specialized tech work( say OS Kernel development).

    Then again, nothing in this world is too difficult, so lot of this stuff is getting pushed out to development teams outside of the US, where it's cheaper to get it done. The only downside is the ramp up time.

    There is a critical point when it becomes too expensive to hire anyone in the US and the folks elsewhere are sufficiently ramped up, at that point we can thank all those who are against employment based immigration and find an alternate career :)

    It is also obvious that the current graduates are more reluctant to take up jobs in US or stay here for a long time due to the following:

    1. Messy GC process as more students are becoming aware of the situation
    2. Ability to work freely in a competitive environment
    3. Boom in their home country (India and China) [A survey shows that majority of foreign students are from these countries]
    4. Ability to start at higher levels over there compared to start up jobs over here
    5. Can stay with family

    In our team, we are trying to hire 3 full time employees in west cost with specific skill set and could not succeed for the past 6 months :( One of my friend who is leading a team, recently want to expand his team had a similar issue. He finally setup an office in India and recruited people over there.

    These trends clearly indicate that US is loosing clear competitive advantage and more jobs are moving off-shore.

    If for some reason I move back to India, I am sure that I will be taking away as many as 10 jobs along with me as well :)


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