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  • 'AAA Life Insurance' is offering 200K Term life Insurance for $25.72 / Month provided a person has to pass a Medical Test.Wondering $25.72 a Month is Fairly Priced compared to other Vendors ??

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  • Should we write letters individually stating how this law has been unfair to us personally? I do not think DOJ will respond to each of us individually. This has to be a mass campaign under one umbrella to be effective. I understand that the leaders in IV are pursuing this with congress currently so probably cannot participate in this campaign? What other ways do we have? Could this be an online campaign?

    On a separate note, it has been frustrating to see politics in US congress over last two years. I am sure they know about the legal immigrant issues and about retrogression, but clearly say no piecemeal legislation would be passed. They work purely for vote bank which we are not. I would favor working on alteranative means to try to get relief.

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  • This is not 100% relevant to this thread but since we are discussing APs here, I thought I will ask the question.

    Do we need AP to go to / come back from US Virgin Islands? I know that these islands are U.S. territories and should be nothing more than going from one U.S. state to another. The reason for my question is that the DOS website states that for travelling to USVI, the U.S. citizens should carry a Photo Id AND Birth Certificate to establish the U.S. citizenship. Many websites state the same thing and some sites mention that this is because of nearby British Virgin Islands. As you can just take a ferry and come from British islands to U.S. Islands, the Immigration authorities on Mainland need to check your immigration status. This is not the case for travel to Hawaii or Puerto Rico.

    Does anyone know for sure or have personal experience visitng the USVI?

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  • It appears that you are cracking a joke, but I cannot stop from replying to your post. Why are you asking God to save IV? For the things we cannot do or for the things we dcon't understand, why do we always have to bring in 'God' in the picture? Can't we even crack a joke without brining in God?

    I am just trying to prevent world war III on these forums. Thats why my request for not referring "God'. We will all be much more happier funnier and peaceful if we try not to bring in 'God' in the mix.

    Next thing you will see, someone will post - "God, when will the VB dates move for my category".


    Oh God, when my day will come.... :D

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  • Guys,

    I have once again sent 6 letters by mail to 6 members, but I would like to send to more by email. Can somebody please direct me to how to get those or if you have, please paste it here so that we can start sending emails also.
    We must bump up our efforts as much as we can before the Oct bulletin comes out, but EB3 needs to do better. There is not much difference between the two categories when it comes to skill EB2 or EB3. As all of you know, the system is broken. There are Masters degree holders in both categories and experienced categores in both. Not long back we saw Eb3 doing better. This is not right guys,. Lets work together.

    EB2 guys( those who do not want to support EB3)::
    What will you do, in EB3 shoes, if the numbers are not moving in 2-3 months. You got it. MOst of them will change to EB2, right. I will too. I am sure you can imagine the scene then. I know 8 of my 15 friends have already jumped to EB2. And I am sure they have much higher priority date than most of EB2s there. So you know what to expect. Lets ALL support for the common cause.

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  • I thought Obama administration has practically stopped all kinds of enforcement activities. For example mandating e-verify on all employment. Such a move would not punish the undocumented directly, but only the employers. But Obama administration is filing law suit against States who have mandatory e-verify.

    Undocumented Immigration can be solved within a week. But no politician or anti-immigrant wants to talk about it.


    Just put some US citizens who hire undocumented in Jail and then nobody will hire undocumented. All undocumented problem will be solved. But nobody wants to enforce laws on US Citizens. But everyone wants to enforce laws on undocumented because they do not see these undocumented as human beings.

    Instead of deporting 14 million undocumented, and wasting money on this. Just punish 1 thousand US citizens for employing undocumented. I am sure you will see some hidden anti-immigrants being jailed too. The greedy employers promote undocumented immigration by employing them, exploiting them and paying less salary. Why not punish the employers.

    No anti immigration site wants to actively work on this action item. WHY?

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  • Gurus,

    At PortOfEntry, CBP officers are QUESTIONING IF you are working for the sponsoring employer and many folks just switched jobs with AC-21 with no valid H1B anymore.


    1. What are the Consequences at Port of Entry on travelling with AP and NOT working for the ORIGINAL GC sponsor?

    2. Can anyone share thier experience what was the outcome at Port of Entry when the answer is "NO - I am not working with sponsoring employer anymore" Were they held at Portof Entry indefinitely ?

    3. What Steps can anyone take when at CBP office/Immigration Official is NOT allowing you to re-enter US on Valid AP (I-485 pending) and you are NOT working for sponsoring employer and no valid H1B?

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  • i don't think the monkey who is employed to pick out the visa bulletin that way way will be too excited about this proposition. Proceed only if you wish to incur his wrath :D:D:D:D

    Maybe we need to make up a set of cards with priority dates for each EB category and have a parrot pick it up.

    I think we may be able to predict much better that way. :D

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  • good point. let's start doing it then...
    just my opinion..but festive occasions bind us as a community and yes that includes Eid and Christmas and the Chinese new year.
    Diwali celebrates the victory of good over evil, let's hope we can all bask soon in a festival of lights by getting some relief from retrogression....

    actually...and this is just me nitpicking now...Diwali is technically a Hindu festival not an Indian festival (since 20% of Indians are not Hindu), so the complaint may be more accurate if you point to the religious aspect...
    Of course it is widely celebrated in India...and the UK and going by the White house greetings and the huge melas the US :-)

    Chinese new year is a optional holiday and is celebrated with pomp in Las Vegas in honor of the huge gambling community that visits Las vegas from China

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  • Hope is the new word americans learnt...
    we should learn it too.

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  • Thanks styrum. That sheds some light on the issue. From that I deduce that the only way to file an EB2 for jobzone 4 /svp 7 occupation, while minimizing the risk of audits, is for the advertised position to require an MS+0 and nothing else. If someone happens to have a BS+5 then they can use that as a substitute for the MS+0.

    If anyone has been able to successfully file under circumstances negating the above, please do share the specifics with us .

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  • I guess the polling on PD basis is futile it will give people false hope....

    Only folks with ND prior to current processing times can expect to have a chance at appoval...I see many people over here beyond the processing date window and are still hoping to get approved....

    Let's see if this theory is right or not come september.....if only my lawyer had mentioned that ND over rides PD I'd have forced him to file on July 2nd and not wait till July end....

    My bad....


    Hey SoP,
    Your point of ND vs. RD (vs. PD even) is certainly valid, esp. given the randomness of dates that the USCIS follows. However, three things to keep in mind are -
    1. Last Aug and Sept ('08), neither ND nor RD theories worked, if you believed all the dates entered under .com. Approvals were quite random - some cases with ND beyond published dates were approved, which led us to believe they were processing in order of RD, but no FIFO was followed based on RD.
    2. The dates published recently (09/15/2007 at NSC and 08/30/2007 at TSC) are as of June 30, 2009. It has been nearly two months since and an update is possible. Also, by admission of the USCIS, these dates are not exact, only estimates of what cases are being worked on.
    3. Finally, these dates do not serve as guidance for IO to approve cases; they serve as an indication to us applicants as to which cases have been processed thus far. And they help determine if we can file an SR.

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  • Although USCIS guidances are not binding, you might want to pay attention to the below (was not able to upload the attachment, you might want to google for it)

    From: Michael Aytes
    Acting Director of Domestic Operations
    Date: December 27, 2005
    Re: Interim guidance for processing I-140 employment-based immigrant petitions and I-485 and
    H-1B petitions affected by the American Competitiveness in the Twenty-First Century Act of
    2000 (AC21) (Public Law 106-313)

    Question 7. Should service centers or district offices request proof of �ability to pay� from
    successor employers in I-140 portability cases, in other words, from the new
    company/employer to which someone has ported?
    Answer: No. The relevant inquiry is whether the new position is in the same or similar occupational
    classification as the alien�s I-140 employment. It may be appropriate to confirm the legitimacy of a
    new employer and the job offer through an RFE to the adjustment applicant for relevant information
    about these issues. In an adjustment setting, public charge is also a relevant inquiry.

    Question 8. Can an alien port to self-employment under INA �204(j)?
    Answer: Yes, as long as the requirements are met. First, the key is whether the employment is in a
    "same or similar" occupational classification as the job for which the original I-140 petition was filed.
    Second, it may be appropriate to confirm that the new employer and the job offer are legitimate
    through an RFE to the adjustment applicant for relevant information about these issues. Third, as
    with any portability case, USCIS will focus on whether the I-140 petition represented the truly
    intended employment at the time of the filing of both the I-140 and the I-485. This means that, as
    of the time of the filing of the I-140 and at the time of filing the I-485 if not filed concurrently, the I-
    140 petitioner must have had the intent to employ the beneficiary, and the alien must have intended
    to undertake the employment, upon adjustment. Adjudicators should not presume absence of such
    intent and may take the I-140 and supporting documents themselves as prima facie evidence of such
    intent, but in appropriate cases additional evidence or investigation may be appropriate.

    Do you believe IOs understand any of these complex rules? Few days before someone posted that at the time of final GC interview IO even didn't know at all about July fiasco!

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  • Hi,

    Is it possible to apply for both PIO and Indian visa simultaneously. My problem is that my son born in US has to go to India in 60days. If I apply for PIO and if it will not come in 4 weeks is it possible to apply for Indian visa and then go to India on Indian visa ?

    Thanks !

    You can do that, if you are applying in Indian Consulates and not in Embassy in Washington DC.

    1. Washington DC still requires ORIGINAL US PASSPORT (At least, they make it clear)

    2. New York : Existing (valid) passport in original, along with a photocopy (Skeptical)

    3. San Francisco : Existing valid passport in original, along with a photocopy (In the application form, it says for minors, send Photocopy of US Passport) (Still skeptical)

    4. Chicago : The copies of first two and last two pages of foreign passport should be enclosed. (Nothing skeptical as in New York)

    5. Houston : A notarised copy each of his/her birth certificate , his/her parent's latest Indian passports (either expired or not yet expired ) and his/her current US/Foreign passport and a copy of the parent's valid passport. (Guess nothing is skeptical)

    Bottom line, for a US born minor, with the birth certificate + copy of US passport (notarized) are enough to give a PIO card. But the above offices of same agency follow different rules.

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  • I just wanted to get this discussion back on track of ppl wanting to be able rise up a little, let their wives work and feel the freedom to make a decision to go back.

    Let me restart the discussion. I know we are all frustrated to the extent that we want to pack up and leave but we have invested too much time to do that. But let's assume things start moving and we get our GC's in a year or so. Having spent so many years waiting to "settle" would you be willing to unsettle your life again and start over in a country that you left more than a decade ago.

    Note that I am not doubting anyone's intention or disrespecting any entry. Just wondering if its the frustation talking or there are ppl who would actually leave?

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  • Hi

    I want to bring my wife on H4.

    Its been 2 months since I am in US and I have been working since last month i.e. as of now I have only 1 paystub.

    Will this be enough for her H4 stamping in INDIA.


    You need atleast 2-3 paystubs, employment verification letter from employer, bank statements with a decent balance etc among other documents.

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  • I think IV should post ads in all major newspapers. This will be good publicity.

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  • �United States Of America� or more commonly the �US� means one and only one thing for most people in India, the land of opportunities, a place where every dream comes true, a Cinderella fantasy that pops t life. Well, Legend has it that once upon a long long time, it used to be true. But the current situation is a whole lot different than the legends and the fantasies. Let�s delve into the story of an Indian guy, who set out on a journey in pursuit of his
    dreams that promised him the sky.

    This guy was a smart, hard working software engineer in his own power, working for a software company in India. He worked on different kinds of projects for different clients, all of which were from the fantasy land. The clients always appreciated his work and he had a great rapport with these people.
    One day, he got an invitation from one of these demigods�, �Will you please come and join us and share our fortunes? We are in much need of someone talented like you to run our operations�.
    Now, that was an offer he could not refuse, could he? It�s something he had been dreaming about, since he was a child. It seemed like an offer that would change his life for the better, in every possible way.
    He immediately packed his bags, bade good bye to his family and friends, not knowing the future, not knowing he would not see them for at least a few years. It did not even remotely occur to any one at that point, that he will be tangled in so many restrictions, that it would be hard for him to leave the fantasy land. Well, who cares �He is going to AMERICA!�
    He landed here, worked harder than ever, slogged like anything and proved his capabilities and reserved a place for himself in this wonderful land. Five years passed by�..not realizing that every day has been the same, just struggling to keep up with the expectations of his boss. However he became a much respected person at his work place, every one who worked with him was very happy to have him here. They just loved his dedication and passion. His initial plan was to stay here for the 6 years he had on his H1-B visa and head home. But, destiny had something else in store for him. His employers wanted him to stay. They realized they would not be able to find another person of his caliber. So they started a process called Green Card which would allow him to stay in this country and work for them.
    He went to India after a long time, and met his parents. They wanted him to get married; he met a nice girl of his parent�s choice. Both of them liked each other and got married.
    She flew to the fantasy land with him and they live happily ever after��.
    Well, not exactly!
    There is a twist in this story.
    We need to talk about the girl for a little while now. She too was a young, aspiring software engineer with a good company in India. She was a smart and independent girl who loved to live her life. She lived at a short distance from her parents and family with whom she was very close. When she met the guy, she was overjoyed. She instantly liked him, but was a little apprehensive about quitting her job. But everyone told her that she was being silly and that she would get a job in USA, any time she wanted, because of her VAST two year experience. She believed it! The guy also did not know that his fantasy land had changed a lot since his going there. He thought that he was going to get his green card soon and that his wife would be able to work immediately.

    So with all these hopes, they flew back to US of A. Here the reality was far from anything that she ever heard in the legends. She had no friends, no family, and no job. She was not allowed to work while she was on her dependent visa called H4. The hopes of green card were thrashed to the ground. Apparently only a small number of people were given these magical passes called green cards every year. And the wait was a very very long one; reality hit hard, it would take at least five more years to get their green card and that she would have to wait for an indefinite period of time before she could work again.
    She thought of keeping herself occupied by making friends but she found none in her locality.
    She wanted to put her technical expertise to good use by volunteering, she got a few offers but they were all so distant from her house. She did not have a car of her own, so she could not take up such jobs.
    She was left alone at home all day, destined to look at the windows and the walls of her apartment. She could not take it. She applied for her own H1-B visa which she thought would allow her to start working. She had high hopes and started concentrating on honing her skills. But the process was such a long one that it took more than 8 months for her to get the visa approval. She tried to keep her cool, but it was one heck of a struggle. There were so many laws and rules and other incomprehensible things associated with her H1 and her husband�s green card process that she could not go to India to meet her parents . The real struggle started once she got her H1 B. She could not find a project to work on. There were requirements for people in her technology, but most of the jobs required hat she be one of the following:
    1. Candidate with 6 years or more experience
    2. Green Card holder with any experience.

    She hit a roadblock. 6 years of experience or GREENCARD????
    How will she get any of this now?
    Her husband had also become very sad because of the pain that she had been going through. They were never peaceful during these past 1.5 years. Even he was also completely stalled in his career. There is a rule which doesn�t allow him to change jobs or take a promotion even in the same company once his green card process has been started. He has to either wait until he gets the green card or start it all over again. It is like leaving one�s place in a long queue and having to join in at the end, all over again.
    I hear they are thinking about going back to India, where their lives will be much easier.
    Two highly skilled people who were disowned like foster children and put entangled in such complex problems.
    Unless they do something about this green card process soon, there will be many more immigrants who would plan to move back to their own countries.
    It is America�s loss, no doubt!
    An organization called Immigration Voice has been started by a few people, suffering skilled immigrants themselves, to take up the cause of all the others in similar situation. It has picked up quite a lot of momentum these days and
    had been able to achieve success to a certain extent. But it requires more people, more funds and more support to actually attain a significant result.
    America has been built on the competitiveness of highly skilled immigrants. America enjoys a technological leadership around the world primarily because of them.
    Let�s hope that the government will do something soon to provide relief to these skilled immigrants lest America should become a mere legend like Atlantis.

    now with folks trying to buy guns...can we expect any forced forward movement or recapture of visa numbers ?:D

    I mean can the gun be put to some good use....:D

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