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  • No country in the world will give you credit for pension contributions you've made in another country. If you haven't earned enough credits to draw from SS in the US when you retire, then you get nothing. Period.

    Remember, the SS tax is a tax, not an etitlement. "Paying in" guarantees nothing. By the time you retire, the fiscal health of the SS system may be so drastically different (in part dealing with all the baby boomers) that you really shouldn't count on it even being available in any way that makes a difference in your life.

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  • This is my first post which was not positive. I am backing up :). I am proud to be part of IV. I beleive in this cause.

    Buck up :) We all go through it. I never take it personally. I would definitely be happy if more and more members come forward and help, instead of "missing in action" when needed most.

    We would be really happy if new members come up and take initiatives (i am now keeping my messages positive :) ) , more active members, more strength.

    participation is contigeous, all we need is some self motivators and self starters to kindle the fire.

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  • We should ask Congress to postpone the July 30th fee increase while it studies how USCIS can function year round with the same efficiency that it showed in the last two weeks of June.

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  • and everyone started having a sane discussion...

    hope fully this would help

    Read couple of pages forward....thanks Ramba

    All you guys forgetting main thing. Visa bulliton is not a law. It advises consular posts and USCIS to accept and approve 485s and schulde interviews in consular posts to issue IV. It is just a advisary notice to other federal agency by DOS. It is not a binding document.

    The law is "an immigrant visa should immediatly available at the time of filing AOS application" . If visas number is not available on 3rd july, DOS has a right, under the federal law, to advise USCIS and consular posts to stop accepting and approving any applications and stop issuing IV at consular posts on any date.

    If you need more evidence, browse the adjudicator field manual for 485. It says "unless any interm notice issued by DOS, visa number is available to all in entire month". Therefore the key is "unless any interm notice issued by DOS". If DOS issues notice to USCIS on June 3rd, USCIS has to stop accepting any 485.

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  • As far as past IV threads, here is one and I am sure Pappu knows it as he has posted lots of links there:

    A list of contacts for Public radio/TV such as NPR and PBS:

    Here is another... and this makes me think we should look for media contacts at other pro as well as anti-immigration websites.

    Here is one more:

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  • I was going through all the posts and I am surprised that there is no mention of Jayaprakash Narayan.

    Jayaprakash Narayan(Doctor and ex IAS officer) is founder and President of LokSatta Party. If you are thinking its just another political party then you are completely wrong. Please go to to find out more about him and LokSatta party. And there lot of videos about him on Youtube and here is the one of the link to his speeches at Mumbai University

    Yes, I heard about this guy...Hopefully he gets a chance to do some good...

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  • I don't think that search is giving the accurate info. I know at least 10 Amway guys by name in my neighbor hood (you can guess how many... many... times I've been tortured) and none of their names is appearing. May be it is giving the names of those silver or what ever their hierarchy is.

    Its a good info to catch and hopefully its useful.

    Guys! This is getting interesting. Guess what I found!! Now you can find out the names of your local friendly Amway Independent Business owners!!!

    Go to

    Scroll down to the section titled "Benefits of Being Affiliated with an Independent Business Owner", select "Show me a list of IBOs in my area that I can select from".... put your zip code and voila!!!!

    I put my own zipcode 94536, and most of the names are desi. Confirms my suspicion that there are more desi's sucked into this than........

    Now post what you find in your area!

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  • Hello VDLRAO ,

    People from June 2006 are geting GC means that USCIS enough visa so they started to give gc to 2006 candidates.. is my belief true. What will be date in new year's first quater for eb2 india ?

    I don't think USCIS has any idea as to how much "enough" visa they have....They function plz dont draw any conclusions from who is getting a GC now. It could be the last person filed with latest PD while everyone else waits for their GC!

    Just wait and watch. Sept dates will throw some light as to how much of the available visas have they used. (if all, PD will be U, If most/majority: PD will stay same, if less than half: PD will move forward--may be C:p)

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  • Can they use same LC for more than one I-140?
    Trying to understand damage done by LC substitution scams.
    My understanding is they can and they do that. U will only know when the AOS is taken up for processing. In this case there were 5 of them on the same labor. Even 140 gets approved, but not 485. I really wud like to know how VISA numbers get handled in these cases.
    I know several guys who took this path. Of them only one was a genuine case. All others were some kind of deals. Only one of them had a bad deal(Thanks to Mandalapa). Others r still happy with their EAD's.
    I mean this is a widespread practice. I situations like now when we have so few VISA numbers it is unfortunate one for us if those VISA numbers r lost.

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  • To respond to your other post...and FYI

    Check this link or goolge to know more about US flag burning protest

    That's not the point dude. Do you think just because its legal, its acceptable and people are burning flags everyday. What are you smoking brother?

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  • I am going to use AC21 from March. I notified my employer (GC sponsor) about this decision during the first week of Feb. I had been working with him for close to 6 yrs but never had any problems so far.
    But today he didn't pay me. I should get 3 more paychecks including this one for 15Feb and I have my vacation days which would make up for another additional 80% of a pay check. The total would run to 18k+, if I just keep quiet and let it go I will lose the money and also what I beleive in (Freedom).
    If am not able to get my money from my employer I am going to file a lawsuit to recover the pay and also the legal fees from him. And also I am going to file a case against my employer and USCIS for being partners in doing this slave trade in America.
    I strongly beleive that the H1B system and the EB greencard system has been setup to legally bring in high skilled workers as slaves and exploit them by taking away their freedom. We are no better than illegals, in the way we are treated by the goverment and the employers.
    I will fight this case atleast to try to prove my point before I leave this place.
    I am looking for some civil rights agency which can help me with the lawsuit. My fight is not for the GC, but it is for justice.

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  • I don't think there is any need to love any country, its just a place like any other. Within no time India has been divided into 3 countries (4 if you count Kashmir). The only important thing is to quickly migrate to the place you like most, everything else is a waste of time.

    Let me challenge you on the basis of what you wrote here.

    1) You wrote: The only important thing is to quickly migrate to the place you
    like most, everything else is a waste of time.

    Good Enough. No argument.

    2) You wrote: I don't think there is any need to love any country, its just a
    place like any other.

    Here I may not have a problem but Americans will surely have problem.
    They want such people from outside countries who are ready to be loyal
    to USA and ready to love USA as their future country.

    Upon identifying your IP Address and then Physical Address USA can ceratinly decide not to consider you as a candidate of Permanent Residency as you are challenging the base of this constitutional requirement for making you a permanent resident. :D What will you do then if USA gives you thumbs down?:rolleyes: :(

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  • Where does one contribute to said lawsuit? If someone is willing to lead the effort, I'm willing to contribute a little money.

    On July 17, 2007, when USCIS retracted cancellation of July '07 bulletin, as per link below:

    They said, ..."Department of State has advised that Bulletin #107 (dated June 12) should be relied upon as the current July Visa Bulletin for purposes of determining employment visa number availability..."

    Thus, a lot of us sent I-485 based on "visa availability" communicated herein. Can't lawyers now force USCIS to adjudicate all pending I-485 filings based on this. USCIS said in July, 2007 that visa is available for us (and on that basis we sent in our I-485's), where did it go away? Isn't it now their problem to somehow find those supposedly available visas advised in July 2, '07 bulletin?

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  • To answer your question I will have to go through all your I-140 documents. What did your academic evaluation and experiential evaluation stipulate.

    Hello Samay,

    First of all thank you so much for answering my questions.

    In my LCA(H1B) Prevailing wage is mentioned $ 55K & in my Labor(PERM) application Prevailing wage is mentioned $ 65K.

    My labor(PERM) has been approved & I-140 is in process at TSC.

    My question is
    This diffrence between LCA mentioned prevailing wage(i.e. $55K) & Labor(PERM) prevailing wage(i.e. $65K) going to create any problem at stage of I-140 or later in I-485??

    I am getting paid as mentioned in LCA i.e. $55K.

    I will greatly appreciate response.


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  • Oh yeahhh..."1099-int" was a rhetorical statement as you mentioned it.
    Don't worry I have already done my homework with law offices or CIS, as I had to show all incomes during interviews. Keep on squeaking.

    Good to know that a EB 3 spot will soon be freed up when you are deported for your "unauthorized work". I now really wish more people (even EB2) join Amway . We might not need a CIR after all :)

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  • Hello Samay,

    First of all thank you so much for answering my questions.

    In my LCA(H1B) Prevailing wage is mentioned $ 55K & in my Labor(PERM) application Prevailing wage is mentioned $ 65K.

    My labor(PERM) has been approved & I-140 is in process at TSC.

    My question is
    This diffrence between LCA mentioned prevailing wage(i.e. $55K) & Labor(PERM) prevailing wage(i.e. $65K) going to create any problem at stage of I-140 or later in I-485??

    I am getting paid as mentioned in LCA i.e. $55K.

    I will greatly appreciate response.


    Both these are separate processes and note that the I-140 is for a future job.So relax.

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  • What is $170 and $180? I got this number from my attorney.

    However, we are getting conflicting #s on application fee!

    Please resolve these #s. Lawyer fees vary. So we can give least and max #s.

    There should be no discrepancy in the application fee - I pulled out these numbers from

    EAD (I-765): $180
    AP (I-131): $170

    As for lawyer fees, it varies by State, Experience, Number of dependents, and Reputation. I think the $2000 is representative of lawyer fees for primary applicant plus 1 dependent. I spoke to a lawyer in California who charges around $1700 for I-485/AP/EAD, and multiply that by the number of dependents. Another one on the east coast said $2000 for primary and spouse.

    If you go for I-140/I-485, then lawyer fees for 1 applicant can go up to $4000 easy.

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  • Besides that, immigration is a privilege not a right, so if the US wants diversity and limit per country immigration, it is their right to do so.

    What rights did the Natives have in the 18th and 19th centuries when Europeans invaded their lands, and massacred most of them? Did they respectfully ask the Natives if they could immigrate? No? They walked in as if they owned this land. As a Canadian, I'm ashamed to say that this happened in my country too.

    Never think of immigration as a privilege - think of it as your birthright - this is your planet and you have the right to go wherever you want. Get into that mentality instead of the groveling "Please sir, I want some more" mentality.

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  • Remove 'Bahenji' ? If LK Advani or Manmohan Singh don't get enough seats we may see Behanji at the Helm...She looks to win most number of seats in the 3rd front, which makes her the front runner for PM candidate in the 3rd front. If 3rd front gets a good number of seats they may get support of opportunist parties like BJD who are not telling who they stand with. remove Atalaji...add Bahenji.

    Are you a Amway leech too?
    Here is a definition of Amway (and psaxena)
    An organism that lives in or on and takes its nourishment from another organism. A Amway leech(and psaxena)cannot live independently.

    Amway (and psaxena) diseases include infections by protozoa, helminths, and arthropods

    Wait a min , how much had you?? Your status is Member and Kaushal's is a Donor.. wait a min let me think who is donating and who is a FREELOADER here.

    The guy is doing something to make his life better, atleast making an attempt to do something better, why do you losers are trying to demotivate and shoot him down.

    No work is small or big , good or bad , work is work.. you wanna do it , just do it , else walk to out. Do not exhibit the desi attitude "I won't do it as what someone will say and also do not let any one else do it." Grow up.

    Agreed !!

    These days i'm driving back from work instead of taking the Train/subway because my client location changed and i built this habit of listening to
    Talk radio by guys like Howie Carr , Michael Savage etc.. ( WRKO 680 at Boston) and they really influence Public decision....

    They were beating the s*** out of Bush, Ted kennedy because of CIR ( atleast verbally ) and calls after calls were coming from local american Public...

    But our story may not be very interesting for Locals - so talk radio probably won't take it up as a Topic ???

    It depends on how you put the issue across to the talk show host/american public. If you say how you want a green card, high skilled, legal immigrants, etc., then general junta is going to club it all into the "immigration issue" and our voice will be lost.

    However, if you put yourself across as someone who got the shaft by the government, victim of mismanagement of govt. agencies, and possible msiconduct, then people are likely to listen. This is because American citizenry is very particular about where their tax dollars are going, and if they don't find transparency in government functions, they will demand explanations.

    If you listen to the programs, then you should call.

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