We see lots of anger and frustration in this GC journey specially when a VB comes out.
lets me ask myself and all of you these questions.
1) Is USCIS or DOS accountable for anything? if they do anything wrong can we do anything?
2) If USCIS post incorrect and bogus numbers of demand do we have a right or anything to challenge them?
3) If USCIS says that they are doing quarterly spillover and don't do that can we do anything legally?
Last year there was a short lived thread on IV talking about Sueing USCIS/DOS for there misdeeds but it died as people pointed out that we cant sue USCIS/DOS.
If the answer to all the above questions are No and we cant even bring USCIS/DOS in the court then we should keep our mouth shut and let it happen whatever is happening?
Thanks,
lets me ask myself and all of you these questions.
1) Is USCIS or DOS accountable for anything? if they do anything wrong can we do anything?
2) If USCIS post incorrect and bogus numbers of demand do we have a right or anything to challenge them?
3) If USCIS says that they are doing quarterly spillover and don't do that can we do anything legally?
Last year there was a short lived thread on IV talking about Sueing USCIS/DOS for there misdeeds but it died as people pointed out that we cant sue USCIS/DOS.
If the answer to all the above questions are No and we cant even bring USCIS/DOS in the court then we should keep our mouth shut and let it happen whatever is happening?
Thanks,
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All,
I posted another thread asking folks to thank core members for their sacrifice and great leadership. But at the same time few members like to "excercise their
freedom of voice" & We should all agree that constructive debate & sometimes criticism brings in new ideas and better path.
We should define ground rules for ourselves which will lead to efficient use of core members time:
1) Ensure that we make every effort to find answer before asking question/suggestion/complaint.
2) Keep one long thread without duplication.
3) Understand that Core members have job/family , so they have limited bandwidth .. please exercise patience.
4) Maintain civil constructive discourse, Which has a referanceble information if You want to send a link to a lawmaker or any other authority/influencer/potential volunteer or help someone become a wellwisher.
5) Understand the limitations of IV/lobbyist , So help them to make things happen & don't expect gurantees.
6) Never use derogatory remarks, even against proven distractors.
7) Please put forward only genuine concerns clearly to avoid misunderstanding
8) Ignore "whiners", But fully respect people with genuine concern/objection.
9) Please put forward only thoughts relevent to scope of current forum/discussion..
.. eg. "Discussing the gramatical mistake of someone's message is not relavent to this forum .." .
10) Always keep in mind that this is public forum , so It is our responsibility to show ourselves collectively in positive light
by not only passionate for our cause , But also professional in our responses.
11) Try to propose ideas which are attainable/pragmatic or You can add words like "I would like to see".
Definately All of us want some resolution out of this problem, But setting too aggresive milestones may results in
taking off eyeballs from low hanging fruit, wich IV is going after to begin with.
Please add other ground rules, So that we can have a good platform to discuss our issues and influence the working of IV to begin with & US congress eventually.Thisshould be good forum for members like me, who can't fully participate because of demanding schedule, others please participate other ways too.
I posted another thread asking folks to thank core members for their sacrifice and great leadership. But at the same time few members like to "excercise their
freedom of voice" & We should all agree that constructive debate & sometimes criticism brings in new ideas and better path.
We should define ground rules for ourselves which will lead to efficient use of core members time:
1) Ensure that we make every effort to find answer before asking question/suggestion/complaint.
2) Keep one long thread without duplication.
3) Understand that Core members have job/family , so they have limited bandwidth .. please exercise patience.
4) Maintain civil constructive discourse, Which has a referanceble information if You want to send a link to a lawmaker or any other authority/influencer/potential volunteer or help someone become a wellwisher.
5) Understand the limitations of IV/lobbyist , So help them to make things happen & don't expect gurantees.
6) Never use derogatory remarks, even against proven distractors.
7) Please put forward only genuine concerns clearly to avoid misunderstanding
8) Ignore "whiners", But fully respect people with genuine concern/objection.
9) Please put forward only thoughts relevent to scope of current forum/discussion..
.. eg. "Discussing the gramatical mistake of someone's message is not relavent to this forum .." .
10) Always keep in mind that this is public forum , so It is our responsibility to show ourselves collectively in positive light
by not only passionate for our cause , But also professional in our responses.
11) Try to propose ideas which are attainable/pragmatic or You can add words like "I would like to see".
Definately All of us want some resolution out of this problem, But setting too aggresive milestones may results in
taking off eyeballs from low hanging fruit, wich IV is going after to begin with.
Please add other ground rules, So that we can have a good platform to discuss our issues and influence the working of IV to begin with & US congress eventually.Thisshould be good forum for members like me, who can't fully participate because of demanding schedule, others please participate other ways too.
in politics everything is give and take + "my side needs to get the best deal" attitude.
I am conflicted about Dream.
On the one hand, if it passes, the illegal community is pacified for the short term and if legal immigration is taken up immediately, they will not oppose us.
On the other, if it does not pass, we might have to wait for CIR or whatever else. Neither Republicans nor Democrats care to sponsor a bill just for our issues. They will continue to talk about amnesty vs enforcement.
Unless of course, we as a community step up, meet with lawmakers repeatedly, get them to take our issue seriously............
I am conflicted about Dream.
On the one hand, if it passes, the illegal community is pacified for the short term and if legal immigration is taken up immediately, they will not oppose us.
On the other, if it does not pass, we might have to wait for CIR or whatever else. Neither Republicans nor Democrats care to sponsor a bill just for our issues. They will continue to talk about amnesty vs enforcement.
Unless of course, we as a community step up, meet with lawmakers repeatedly, get them to take our issue seriously............
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berkeleybee,
this is a good idea. Can you send me the text of the email you drafted? I would like to send it out to my sponsoring employer's HR manager and have the word spread. Please post the draft or PM it to me.
thanks.
this is a good idea. Can you send me the text of the email you drafted? I would like to send it out to my sponsoring employer's HR manager and have the word spread. Please post the draft or PM it to me.
thanks.
Yeah, I know that’s what it means, but I’ve heard it pronounced the other way IRL; I thought it was kinda funky, but cool.
why does everyone on the forum get excited so easily?the proposals from CIR are just that-proposals. a bill has to be debated by both senate and house of reps and passed, then approved and signed by president to make it a law. Most bills do not become laws. The information of mere proposals has people all over the forum debating, arguing and doing all kinds of analysis about the various proposals in the CIR bill. So much speculation about something that is at an infantile stage makes me wonder what will happen if any of the proposals actually becomes a law!! i am sure many people in the forum will have heart attacks!!
It should be new procedure for each person.
Thanks for your information. I have filled out my information and added spouse and child pending cases after adding my case. When i tried to start new procedure for spouse and child, it is giving me error that i have already notified the address change. Asked me to contact back after 45days.
I guess, it should be ok.
Thanks for your information. I have filled out my information and added spouse and child pending cases after adding my case. When i tried to start new procedure for spouse and child, it is giving me error that i have already notified the address change. Asked me to contact back after 45days.
I guess, it should be ok.
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I don't think so but check with the issuer. Sometimes they might tell.
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Alright my last understanding was wrong.
So to recap what I understand :-
You have a PD of 2002 in EB3. Have approved I-140 and pending 485.
What you want to do is file a new labor in EB2, use your approved I-140 to change PD to 2002 and then file 485 in EB2.
Since you have a 485 filed, why would you want another 485 ?
Possible reason :- You think EB3 is retrogressed right now - so the final approval may not come for another 2 years possibly ( i.e. if no bills pass )
If you convert your case to EB2 which is current, you may have your actual GC much sooner.
Now to your question - what happens if the old employer revokes I-140.
I've come across different answers to it. There are lawyers who believe that once your 140 is approved, the PD is yours for life. Only time you will lose it is if the 140 is revoked due to fraud. Normal revocation request from employer will not impact it. Some lawyers are of the opinion that it may not work this way. This is an untested scenario - atleast to my knowledge. There is some risk in it but you can minimize it by first asking the new employer to file a PERM in EB2, get it approved, file for I-140 in Premium and change your PD. Once all of this is done, you should change your company to the new employer ( provided dates are still current for EB2 ). This way you run very little risk.
If I were you, I would use AC-21 to change employers. The process you are trying to go is a long one and its going to take time. But yes, there are distinct advantages in getting over with this process and probably I might had been tempted to do it too :-)
Sorry for the long winded answer - the short answer is revocation of I-140 by your previous employer will not impact your PD transfer. But its not for certain - its believed to be so by some lawyers. ( I've talked to 3 of them on this issue and majority feels it will not impact )
Alright my last understanding was wrong.
So to recap what I understand :-
You have a PD of 2002 in EB3. Have approved I-140 and pending 485.
What you want to do is file a new labor in EB2, use your approved I-140 to change PD to 2002 and then file 485 in EB2.
Since you have a 485 filed, why would you want another 485 ?
Possible reason :- You think EB3 is retrogressed right now - so the final approval may not come for another 2 years possibly ( i.e. if no bills pass )
If you convert your case to EB2 which is current, you may have your actual GC much sooner.
Now to your question - what happens if the old employer revokes I-140.
I've come across different answers to it. There are lawyers who believe that once your 140 is approved, the PD is yours for life. Only time you will lose it is if the 140 is revoked due to fraud. Normal revocation request from employer will not impact it. Some lawyers are of the opinion that it may not work this way. This is an untested scenario - atleast to my knowledge. There is some risk in it but you can minimize it by first asking the new employer to file a PERM in EB2, get it approved, file for I-140 in Premium and change your PD. Once all of this is done, you should change your company to the new employer ( provided dates are still current for EB2 ). This way you run very little risk.
If I were you, I would use AC-21 to change employers. The process you are trying to go is a long one and its going to take time. But yes, there are distinct advantages in getting over with this process and probably I might had been tempted to do it too :-)
Sorry for the long winded answer - the short answer is revocation of I-140 by your previous employer will not impact your PD transfer. But its not for certain - its believed to be so by some lawyers. ( I've talked to 3 of them on this issue and majority feels it will not impact )
They are already against us and shouting on top of their lungs "SLUMDOG" for the reason that cowards and scared and suppressed people like you never gonna do anything.
The same attitude like yours actually made us slaves for many more years, instead would have got the freedom long long time back.
Next time when your tail is between your legs , do not try to make suggestions.
Average American is not calling anyone slumdog. But Average American guy would be angry if he thought guest worker was saying they work harder than lazy Americans. So to say or spread this idea is not helpful to anybodys goals as CIR needs support from American citizens who will not like being thought of as lazy or not working hard.
The same attitude like yours actually made us slaves for many more years, instead would have got the freedom long long time back.
Next time when your tail is between your legs , do not try to make suggestions.
Average American is not calling anyone slumdog. But Average American guy would be angry if he thought guest worker was saying they work harder than lazy Americans. So to say or spread this idea is not helpful to anybodys goals as CIR needs support from American citizens who will not like being thought of as lazy or not working hard.
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i invoked ac21 twice..never asked even a single question to the employers, infact my current job title is not even close to the job title that my labor was filed long time ago, i am very confident, i will change my mind and go back to india for good, before my PD of jan 2003-India becomes current. just cant ruin my career and life thinking about things that are not in our control..just my opinion, not an advice. if u get struck with a sick job for years due to the GC mess, it justifies itself for all these decisions. even if they issue an RFE and my GC gets denied, i care a less about it, cos it lost its importance when it took this long..atleast i am doing some work right now which will help my career on a long term basis.
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If you have your 140 approved, then if Emp A withdraws may not cause any damage, but if your 140 is not approved and if Emp A withdraws it, certainly cause a big damage.
What happens if I transfer my H1B from A to B (A has concurrently filed I140/485, >180 days, I 140 NOT approved). Can I have B do AC21 after I 140 from A gets approved (may take 4-5 more months) ? Do I HAVE to be with employer "A" till I 140 gets approved? (employer A does not intend to revoke I 140...and I understand there is a risk if ther is an RFE on I 140 during this period)
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What happens if I transfer my H1B from A to B (A has concurrently filed I140/485, >180 days, I 140 NOT approved). Can I have B do AC21 after I 140 from A gets approved (may take 4-5 more months) ? Do I HAVE to be with employer "A" till I 140 gets approved? (employer A does not intend to revoke I 140...and I understand there is a risk if ther is an RFE on I 140 during this period)
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just let adolf tancredo roll of your back...hes just trying to get few more days of publicity out of his quickfading presidential bid. sala tingu
I think his new presidential slogan should be Hail for Natives, Hell for Immigrants ;)
I think his new presidential slogan should be Hail for Natives, Hell for Immigrants ;)
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Thanks, you are real hope for the thousands of people affected by retrogression.
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I have one year left on my second H1. I am EB3, Canadian born category. Just got I-140 approved last week or so. I've been working here in California for the same employer for 6 years. My PD is Nov 04. I feel like I've taken a big career hit.
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Can't answer all your questions but here is what I did. I had been working for the same company for five years. My priority date was Sept. ' 02. I finally got a 45 day letter in March '05. I decided not to remain hostage to the green card process. I changed my job mid-2005. Refiled all the paperwork. I was in my 5th year of H1B. You are in a better situation than me because your I-140 has been approved and having worked there for six years you might be able to convince them not to revoke it if you change your job.
I suggest you write down all your career and personal goal for next five years. Prioritize. Act on whatever takes precedence. Be very honest because you will need to face the consequences, job satisfaction vs delayed green card.
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Can't answer all your questions but here is what I did. I had been working for the same company for five years. My priority date was Sept. ' 02. I finally got a 45 day letter in March '05. I decided not to remain hostage to the green card process. I changed my job mid-2005. Refiled all the paperwork. I was in my 5th year of H1B. You are in a better situation than me because your I-140 has been approved and having worked there for six years you might be able to convince them not to revoke it if you change your job.
I suggest you write down all your career and personal goal for next five years. Prioritize. Act on whatever takes precedence. Be very honest because you will need to face the consequences, job satisfaction vs delayed green card.
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It auto-converts all H1Bs and EADs into Green Cards effective immediately. :)
I wish Pappu's words become true...;)
I wish Pappu's words become true...;)
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Just had a general question. The 797 thats approved for any person, is that for a specific consulate? If we want to go for stamping to another consulate what do we do? Is that a lengthy procedure. Thanks friends.
I don't have the I-797A's I-94 which was attached to the bottom since I had to submit that in Jan 2009 when I'd visited India and come back to the US with H1-B stamping. I do have a copy of this I-797A's I-94...would giving this copy be better than not providing any at all? Thanks, Vick
You are actually expected to provide the latest I94, I believe that your employer may have filed an I9 based on your latest I94, just find the I94 # and the local customs and immigration at the airport should be able to issue you a new one. If you have a copy or the number of this one it would help.
You are actually expected to provide the latest I94, I believe that your employer may have filed an I9 based on your latest I94, just find the I94 # and the local customs and immigration at the airport should be able to issue you a new one. If you have a copy or the number of this one it would help.
i had the same situation. your friend can apply for H1-B coz he is already counted. He'll loose whatever time that he is used on EAD and get the remaining time that is left on his 6 year period. If 6 years is already passed, he can still file for H1-B based on labor, 140 approval. In my case, my H1-B got denied coz of employer issues and i have an another H1-B with another company. Mean while i have filed AC21 with my new employer to be able to work..Hope this helps..
Hi Sankar,
Can one apply for another h1b if h1b extn not come thru and h1b already expired ?
Hi Sankar,
Can one apply for another h1b if h1b extn not come thru and h1b already expired ?
