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  • I strongly feel you guys are right regarding EB1 misuse. I also know of some people who are applying in EB1 using these loopholes. we should do something to stop this fraud.

    I've read other people's comments in this thread about how Cognizant is misusing EB1 category. I know a couple of folks who did that. This is something that should be brought up to the right people's observation. I plan to submit WH-4 atleast to begin with, against this company. Please PM me if you know anyone else who frauduently represented himself/herself for EB1 category.





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  • Nixtor,

    This idea makes much sense and I am for it.
    Only hitch is how fruitful it would be launching it now. Why not to wait for next season ( Probably Democrats ).





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  • You can apply for Canadian PR while staying in the USA if you can demonstrate that you have entered the USA legally and stayed in the country legally for at least one year. That's what Canadian law says. I'm too lazy to look for the actual law -- just google it. ;)

    You can apply for the Canadian citizenship after staying in Canada for three years out of four. Of these three years, you must be a PR for at least two years.

    http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizen/becoming-howto.html
    Yes... at the time of application the H1B should be valid for at least 1 year.... I got my papers returned to me coz of this. I reapplied once I renewd my H1 for 3 more yrs





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  • Ombudsman discussed the RFE rates on page 18 figure 7 of the following document:
    http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/cisomb_annual_report_2009.pdf

    H1b RFE rates
    Year VSC CSC
    2006 12.7 07.1
    2007 11.4 11.0
    2008 11.8 11.6

    It would be interesting to see the new RFE rates, as this memo gets actioned at USCIS.

    Best Wishes for all.





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  • I don't think in any year EB2ROW has got 40K GC in the past, even when the economy was in good shape.

    Does anyone has links for the annual GC issuance per country/per category for 2008. I missed the link.

    The worst case scenario would be 20,000 max. That means EB2(I) will move to Mid or3 rd quarter of 2006 by end of 2010.



    using following report
    NAFSA | Resource Library | Selected PERM Program Statistics - Jan 2009 (http://www.nafsa.org/regulatory_information.sec/regulatory_document_library.dlib/employment-based_immigration/selected_perm_program)
    http://www.nafsa.org/uploadedFiles/selected_perm_program.pdf?n=2558

    Using the report from 12/31/2008 (did not find a newer report)

    PERM received: 20,752 (18,863 electronic; 1,889 mail-in)
    PERM completed: 4,571 (3,074 certified; 1,328 denied; 169 withdrawn)
    PERM pending : 53200

    For next 3 quarters we assume they receive 10K applications and approve 5k each quarter we get PERM pending (53200 + 3 * 10k - 3 * 5k) = 68K pending PERM.

    For this 68K, i am expecting 30% from India and 10% from China and 20% from EB3-ROW. We get 27K EB2 ROW PERM pending.

    If 70% of them are approved and apply for I-485 with 1.2 dependent we get approx 40K I-485 applications in EB2-ROW.

    So in case all PERM backlog is removed we will get 40K more EB2-ROW applications. Worst case scenario.





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  • You also know what I am stating. You already have heard the word"Pre-adjudication" which means "To assign number" based on monthly bulletin based EB table dates and then put a file on shelf to eat dust till USCIS can "approve 485" /"Send Physical greencard" based on Prority date becomes active based on "country specific limit"

    If assigning number is almost equivalent to granting visa in a few days then there should not be hundreds of applicants waiting in "pre-adjudication" queue. We all know that many people have been pre-adjudicated and now they are just waiting for their physical GCs.

    The Terminology : Visa number is assigned when I-485 application is approved (given that their are visa numbers available) or at Consular post the interviewer approves your application.

    If you mean assigning file number or alien number then that a different thing. Pre-approval (is like initial review which more or less check is all documents are correct and application is approve able). No visa is give to any pre-approved case.





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  • Dear Attorney,

    I am from India and working as a Software Programmer / Analyst in a decent company and I am using AC21 with this company...and my Green Card journey started September 2002.

    Labor applied (EB3) - September 2002
    Labor approved - July 2003
    I-140 / I-485 applied - December 2003
    I_140 approved - August 2004 after responding to an RFE
    Two times finger prints done and name check is done.
    RFE about sons birth certificate -- responded last year.


    But still the way things are going with Visa numbers and seems no light at the end of the tunnel. I am decided to change EB3 to EB2.

    What would you suggest?

    Where can I find the process for this switch (EB3 to EB2) ??

    Is there any benefit switching from AOS to Consular Process?

    Thanks and appreciate your response.

    The process of switching from EB3 to EB2 also takes some time and expense. Please do consult your attorney and weigh in all pros and cons very carefully. In case you require assistance please contact me.





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  • Yes I believe we have a case.

    The EB immigration system has become a joke where we are fighting for a pittance of this or that quota.

    The current situation is a violation of human dignity of young and skilled american workforce.
    It is a violation of liberty of tax paying law abiding residents.
    It is very unamerican as it closes off opportunities for some of the brightest people in the world.

    Shame on America that this exploitation exists in this day and age in this country.





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  • If PD moves to last quarter of 2007 within a year, then there would be no candidates (EB2), since all will still be stuck in PERM audits which will take 6-12 more months to clear + I-140 processing time.

    So, they move PD dates faster but freeze PERM apps. I am confused:confused: Any insights?





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  • According to my analysis based on recipted/pending I-485 they processed some 80-90K (estimated range) EB I-485 applications which 57/65% of 140k by April 2008.

    May month usage was very low, i feel June/July not to bump too much so another 20k cases. We should still have FB rollover from 07 (31K) + another 10k visa in the pool for Aug/Sept visa.

    I agree, I read all the posts and went through some figures myself, the indication is that dates for EB2 will move much faster that we had all anticipated in the past. I do somewhere agree with my friend vldrao that dates could retrogress for a small period of time (say 1 month), but eventually dates will become current soon.


    Thanks:)





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  • So i was right GCPerm was kicked out of this forum for being EB3 ................

    Tell me something Ron . In you opinion what would freak out all the guys more and again
    - If I am GCPerm
    - If I am NOT GCPerm

    Let me know which so that i will agree to be the opposite and then hopefully the guys will calm down or not freak out more. A whole day with the guys here on IV and i am feeling like i took care of 20 bawling, crying children for the complete time. I am not sure i can do that for another day.

    Just between you and me I am not GCPerm but shhhhhhhhh don't tell anyone anything or it might lead to another round of slugfest.

    i'll not tell anyone that u'r gcperm.... ok?

    btw, no one is freaked out knowing that u'r gcperm..... i guess no one cares for u....





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  • Time to push it.. 200K will buy houses is quite believable given the points that we have monies to do it, and given the market. We need a campaign. Also once the new President wins, never forget to congratulate him and at the same time request help.

    Lets do this. Contgratulate Obama with proposal of GC for House scheme (need better words though :)).





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  • I know people who got their GC in 7 months from the date they filed PERM. and then there are many people getting GCs every month. There are both good stories and bad stories to tell about getting GC in US.

    There were times when H1 quota never reached the limit during the whole fiscal year, now they get used in just 2 days. This mess in GC process is a result mainly due to our own actions (temporary workers and consulting companies hiring temporary workers). Do you think majority of us once we get GC, stay with the consulting company that filed for our GC? When a consulting company files for PERM, they already have a foreign national working under H-1B in that position. So where is the real intent to hire an American when some foreigner is already working at that position?

    This employment based GC is a way for us foreigners to immigrate to US easily at one point. Now due to our extreme usage and abuse of this process, there are genuine people who are being sponsored to immigrate to US are also suffering. In a true employment GC scenario, the company should be desperate to keep you for a long time (more than 6 years after H-1B is maxed) for your valuable skills that they were unable to find in others. But in most GC cases, looks like we temporary workers are more desperate than our employers for the GC? aren't we? Do you see any companies sweating on how to retain you with them, because you H-1B is expiring and they have no way to keep you?

    Do not put all the blame on US immigration system, the majority of the blame should fall on us and the companies who are helping us to get GCs when our cases are not based on genuine sponsors.
    Do you see any companies sweating on how to retain you with them, because you H-1B is expiring and they have no way to keep you?

    This was true in my case at least - my compay worked hard to keep me around when my H1 was expiring.





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  • Will it be possible to get emergency legislation to capture unused EB numbers for the past several years????

    Is it possible to escape the radars of the likes of Durbin & Sanders?

    No, it will not be possible to escape the radars of Durbin, Grassley or Sanders. The key is to get support from people like Kennedy. I know it is very difficult because kennedy is very pissed off with the failure of CIR. Kennedy will only consider this, if this really becomes a full blown issue beyond a certain magnitude. Then we have people like Hagel, Lieberman, Cornyn, cantwell who supported bigger amendments than this. It is a matter of making this a bigger/biggest issue related with USCIS and immigration.





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  • Ok - so what is it going to cost us to get a consult with Rajiv Khanna? Anyone know this? Until we have more details on this, I commit $25 for this first consultation. (I will gladly raise the commitment once I know how much this will cost and if IV Core Members support this initiative).





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  • To be honest, I do agree that the US needs qualified people with skillsets. The real question is "Are the people from the desi consulting companies the real qualified lot ? " Just to get my background details out of the way. I am a new member, from India ofcourse, and I have recently applied for my citizenship. Now with this huge deluge of immigrants, especially from the desi consulting companies, I feel that my quality of life is getting adversely impacted. Do not rush to conclusions that I am anti Indian or anti immigrant. 12 years back when I first got my H1 visa, the requirements to qualify were strict. Staffing companies to a decent extent followed rules and tried to get the best and the brightest. Once the dot com boom started, people from all walks of life entered IT. This was true of not just the Indians but also of people in the US. Soon after the bust, the value proposition from these staffing companies was simply low cost. This is not to blame the staffing companies. They behaved in an economically rational way.

    Consider this scenario. If you run a consulting company, wouldn't you try to maximize your profits by staffing people in projects at the least cost ? This is econmically rational. You wouldn't worry much about the quality of the deliverables and all you would care is to dump as many bodies as possible at the client site or offshore and get the maximum bang for the buck.

    In this scenario, how is it feasible to expect immigrational justice when the bodies themselves dont provide exceptional talent and skills but simply offer low cost ? Now you would be tempted to bring in the analogous case of illegal low skilled immigrants. Remember they are just that - low skilled workers. They dont "steal" the jobs of high skilled workers. But this dumping of IT workforce has completely brought down the standard of living of the IT workers here. To be honest, those who get green cards today would feel the same way five years from now when the next wave of so called "skilled IT immigrants" offer even lower wages and destroy the quality of life.

    In summary, this retrogression is good in a way. The truly best and the brightest would still be employed until their turn for adjournment comes in. Only the weak are currently scared of the delays. I went through the same torrid GC phase after the tech meltdown in 2001. I was not worried of my job then but many people whom I knew got clobbered and were forced to leave. This is the darwinian flush and it will take its toll. Trust me this the bitter truth. If you people still consider that all the people on H1/L1 are part of the best and the brightest, they are WRONG. Only a small % (probably 20%) are the true best and the brightest and a good 50% will be flushed out. Sorry to say this and hey give me the red dots.



    Dilip Dude,
    As said before by unseenguy, your case is just plain LUCK, if there was no bill during 1999-2000 to recapture and increase GC quota, you would have been still struck in BEC counting days for GC,forget Citizenship. Just because you are over qualified(or under!) than others does not make you special or get you GC faster, you just had some good KARMA, thats it...

    Anyways, your attitude of blaming others(h1/l1 etc.) for decrease in your quality of life is just plain STUPID and shows your maturity.

    I wish you are not in a managerial position, I have seen many Desi managers like you who give hard time to fellow Desi folks working under them thinking they rule the world and they are the only qualified one who knows all.

    My advice is wish good for others not bad, this will get you more good karma and maybe get your citizenship faster.. :-)





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  • Fantastic idea, it will bring OXYGEN to this bedridden economy. We need to contact real estate media channels like HDTV for the support to project through their media.





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  • There were many compelling reasons for recapture bill on 1999-2000. Top 3 reasons were
    1. Demand was very high and in some areas only less than 2 persons were available for 4 positions.
    2. Outsourcing was very low. There is no other way than importing foreigners. Now even if demand increases many positions are going for outsourcing.
    3.There were no AC21. So many people started leaving country after completion of 6 years H1b causing huge problems to companies and country.Companies could get recapture and AC21. Now atleast 80% of the H1b persons are willing to stay even 15 years without green card using ac21.

    Now only green card aspirants are suffering due to deley in green card not the companies or country. But country and companies are using the H1b persons by just showing green card carrot but actually not giving it.


    Dilip Dude,
    As said before by unseenguy, your case is just plain LUCK, if there was no bill during 1999-2000 to recapture and increase GC quota, you would have been still struck in BEC counting days for GC,forget Citizenship. Just because you are over qualified(or under!) than others does not make you special or get you GC faster, you just had some good KARMA, thats it...

    Anyways, your attitude of blaming others(h1/l1 etc.) for decrease in your quality of life is just plain STUPID and shows your maturity.

    I wish you are not in a managerial position, I have seen many Desi managers like you who give hard time to fellow Desi folks working under them thinking they rule the world and they are the only qualified one who knows all.

    My advice is wish good for others not bad, this will get you more good karma and maybe get your citizenship faster.. :-)





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  • I spent over 20 years in Canada. Fact is, I never EVER waited a month to see a doctor. Not once. Nor has my sister who is still there.

    I spent 7 years in Australia. Never had a problem getting a doctor there either. In fact, I will say that it truly is AWESOME there. Great people, great opporunities, good money, incredible lifestyle.

    I have spent 7 years in the US. It's a wonderful place with heaps of opportunity. The cost of living is higher than any other place but I accept it because because I like so much about living here. I like the people, I like the weather. I like the countryside and the culture.

    You see, for me, there are many great things to be found in all 3 of these places. It's not a contest. There are good and bad aspects to life in any place you chose. In that one area, I agree with you. There are pros and cons that need to be considered. What you choose is a personal decision based on your needs, objectives and desires.

    It's that simple.

    One last thing. Normally, I'd let this go. After all not everyone's first language is English. But when you start making ludicrous remarks about "illiterate Canadians", and demonstrate in that very same post that you are unable to construct a single decent sentence, well frankly, you're undermining your argument a little.

    And by the way, Canada has one of the top literacy rates in the world.

    And Do you (canadian wanna be) have any clue that to get respected salary and position you will be forced by illiterate Canadians to have "Professional Engineering Certificates"... It will suck blood out of your body for 5 years... So just do not read "Greener Side" of Canadian Immigration... I know it may not be applicable to all but more or less most of will have to face the same music in their careers. My all Canadian friends and relatives want to be Americans.. Only some of them practically could proceed for that.. After some stage of life it becomes hard to move families.. That is the reason they are facing now to take decision and simultaneously do not want to live in Canada anymore.. If you have 101 fever it will take 1 month to have Doctor's appointment... GST.. Higher taxes.. statistically there are chances "Most of members of this forum - Canadian Wanna Be" will have less promotions and/or increments in salary eventhough they will find themselves most skilled wherever they will work. Top posts would be the dream for most of you guys unless you start your own business.. if you understand what I am trying to tell... In USA it is not that way.... Having said this I can not say that everybody will experience the same what I am trying to portray but most fo them will.





    No one cares who the heck is he...when dozens of people dying without food and because drought, GOI has better jobs to do rather than going after the BCP for this moron. How many times Ambika Soni cared about normal people are suffered in security check. We are still struck colonial mentality and hero worship. This crap is happening only in india. They are expecting the same from US as well.

    It happens everywhere. Politicans bank on these stars - stars get along well with businessmen, politicians fight and then kiss each other. Stars marry, divorce, remarry - and the list goes on.

    Come on, it happens everywhere, not only in India. How many times do you not see 80 year old rich businessman marrying 26 year old beautiful model?

    Look at how the bailout money has gone to those people who screwwed the economy.

    The reason you think India has issues that other countries do not have is because you are still not stepping out of your Indian shoes.

    Go out with your American friends for a drink and discuss these issues - for every issue you discuss - you will get a parallel American counter issue that is similar in nature.

    There is nothing called "absolute" in this world and you will realise it now or later. Live in a country side with a constant income and you will find life peaceful because you are not bothered by what is happening.

    Or try helping people - and do social service - you will realise that it is a dangerous and thankless job.

    Democracy is "not exactly" how it sounds. Unfortunately, life is not fair to anyone and one has to live in within his/her means.

    Crying foul over all such stuff will not bring changes. Working within parameters to bring about changes is "unfortunately" the only way how changes have come to the "Mother Earth"

    snathan - you are a very strong vocal person and have great thoughts. You must utilize your "good hearted nature" not to point fingers but to see how best you can utilize and grab opportunities for betterment.

    There are worse things happening in places like congo and African countries, small girls being raped , civil wars , and so many things.

    Diseases are spreading, sanitation is bad, farmers are facing drought - so many things happening. Lets not blame SOME PEOPLE for all this. it is us collectovely who can bring about change.





    I heard this group of people - from anti immigrant organizations, plan to intercept fedex trucks going into USCIS next month sort out 485 petitions and steal them and hide them in an undisclosed location.

    These people have only one aim in life. Not to allow 485 applications to reach USCIS.

    When USCIS does not recieve any 485 applications, they will retrogress. Then this group of people will stop stealing the petitions.
    :confused:



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