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  • You are lucky to run away from INDIA, and have good health coverage and forgot about corruption. ;)


    You think you are here because of your merit. It is not my friend. My relative, who is a Doctor came here in 1940's and did higher studies, have to return back to India, because at that time USA will not give permanent residency to Indian citizens. Only whites will get GC during that period.
    Only after 1965 GC is offereed to every one irrespective of color.

    So you are LUCKY to born during this period.


    RAJIV give Science a boost.. PVN. RAO did open the ecomony (eventhough he is corrupt, he did a good job for India). Many Engg. Medical colleges started in late 80's and 90's.
    That is why the India developed. Many people did education in in Engg. and can come here.
    Before in Kerala only 6 Engg. colleges. Now there are more than 70 Engg. colleges and more than 15 medical colleges.
    Same happened to many Indian states including AP.

    In the case of India, recent estimates of INDIAN (BLACK) MONEY outside India (in Countries like SWITZERLAND, )reached Rs.7.5 Million Crores (About US$1,500 Billion). Laying hands on this (Black) money is not in the power of the Indian Government.
    Black Money circulating inside India appears to be no lesser in quantity than the outside component mentioned above.
    Black money and corruption that can spread into the hitherto respected institutions like Judiciary, the Army, and the Bureaucracy in India may, one day, by moral degradation lead to a failed state. Black Money lends free access to the Criminal, Antinational, and Antisocial elements going beyond the control of the laws in place.
    To-day’s civilized world has accepted the phenomenon of hiding money in Swiss Banks as “NOT ILLEGAL” obviously because the CREAM OF SOCIETY in the world owns that money. ……..
    Government of India is not able to help honest, sincere tax payers particularly middle class families in the matter of providing quality Education, Healthcare for their families at reasonable cost. Education and Medical have become Biggest Money spinning businesses in India now. One has to shell out Rs. 30 to 50 Lakhs for a MBBS seat and about Rs. 5 to Rs.10 Lakhs for an Engineering seat in good colleges. How can middle class people can pay this money?. They are deprived of good education though, they pay taxes honestly and sincerely to government. It is really unfortunate. For people who have block money, these things do not matter
    If you have to do business in India, IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OFFICIAL TAXES MENTIONED, LOT OF BRIBES ARE TO BE GIVEN ALMOST TO EVERY DEPARTMENT IN CITY (CORPORATION), STATE (PROVINCE), AND ALSO CENTRAL GOVERNMENTS. Some examples are: Police, Municipal officials, Electricity depat.officials, weights& measures inspector, Rowdies & Goondas, Political contributions, Subscriptions/Donations to RELIGIOUS GURUS ETC.
    THE AMOUNT TO BE GIVEN AS "BRIBE" IN BURIAL YARD(S) IN INDIA, WHEN A PERSON DIE, FOR BURNING THE BODY, FOR GETTING DEATH CERTIFICATE, (THESE ARE IN ADDITION TO OFFICIAL FEES PAID TO MUNICIPALIIES FOR BURNING THE BODY FOR FIRE WOOD ETC.). The amount to be spend after death in India now comes to Lakhs of Rupees for doing all types of cermonies, merging ashes in Ganga at Varanasi and other holy places, giving gifts/charities to pandits, giving advertisements in newspapers, arranging feasts BHOJANALU to thousands of people (so called relatives), friends. This is in addition to LARGE SUMS OF MONEY PAID TO DOCTORS FOR SO CALLED CURING OF SICKNESS.
    In many cases, many middle class people becomes BEGGERS/PAUPERS after getting into hospitals, nursing homes etc. just before dyeing.

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  • You moron coming from the slum region or any other place in Bihar.
    You don't know about keralites.
    100% Literacy.
    Living standard is same like Europe. (no other state have the facilities such as health care and standard of living like Kerala).
    It is God's own country.
    Visit and see the details.
    Even the guys working in Gulf countries knows better than you and making much more than you. Go and see their houses.(multi storied), You are still in an appartment.
    Do you ????

    Mr.Nair tell me is it Gulf or Gelf. Do you still wear lunky in office or smoke peedi...enda peedi malabar pedi, enda CM EK nayar...he he :D

    If its GOD own country...what are you doing there. Are you renting it mr.Nair

    by the way how is omana kutty.

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  • As you use the phrase Check Mate....

    Chess is all about thinking strategically several moves ahead.
    Given the current political climate on immigration I think that we will be in a check mate position (on the loosing end) if we pursue that road.

    The anti's would be all over us as soon as we filed in federal district court probably even before a hearing, and definitely after a hearing. If we lost in lower courts the Supreme Court would probably refuse to hear the appeal, in the mean time we'd have just stirred up the anti's hornets nest against us, just as much if not worse than against the illegals.

    Asking Congress to make small changes in the existing laws annoys the anti's. Telling them or forcing them to wholesale rewrite their laws would make us public enemy #1. We would be lucky to have more than a handful of law makers willing to stand up for us. It would kill off all lobbying ability.

    Think of lobbying as polite negotiation.
    Think of Supreme court case as picking a fist fight, in which we are badly out numbered.
    Once you have started a fist fight it is much harder to negotiate, especially from a loosing position.

    I would rather negotiate than fight, I would rather lobby than court challenge.

    So yes, check mate, if we follow this route.
    Alternatively, a British phase: Royally screwed!

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  • Hey _TrueFacts,

    Will you stop the caste based shit here. F**k you a** yourself idiot. You are so called senior member shitting here idiot.

    Last nail in YSR�s coffin

    Jagan gets 3 choices: DyCM, mantri, PCC (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/india/Jagan-gets-3-choices-DyCM-mantri-PCC/articleshow/4997385.cms)

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  • I have done a lot of research on this :::

    A good option is if you try and get a job in Detroit, MI. You can then live across the border in Windsor, ON and commute daily between Canada and US.Windsor is basically suburb of Detroit right across from Detroit river ex like Mumbai and Navi Mumbai, Hyderabad and Secundrabad etc.

    This way you get best of both worlds

    1) You keep H1B visa and US GC going.
    2) You earn in US $ and can avail of US job opportunity.
    3) You can earn time towards maintaining Canadian PR and Canadian Citizenship.


    1) This option is limited to getting a job/transfer in Detroit Metro area.
    2) Some days there may be delay at border if US is on high alert, so you need to be conservative and add time for border inspection to your commute.
    3) You have to file taxes in both US and Canada (but its not double taxes).

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  • I dont think there is a law which dictates spill over to happen in last quarter? Some USCIS crony has made that happen only in last quarter? Does any one know more about this?

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  • Bestia,

    I am not fighting with you believe it or not - just that some things said on this forum are just downright nasty. FYI though.. the Congo WAS colonized and terrorized by the Europeans. Hear of the Belgian Congo?? I don't know about Sierra Leone though.

    I brought African countries not as scapegoats, but as examples of countries not colonized by Europeans. I didn't mean to insult anybody from Sierra Leone or Congo ;) But my point was that if there wouldn't be Europeans - there wouldn't be United States.

    Man... you can't bring some example, not to be accused of something... Come on guys.

    Happy Valentine's Day.

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  • Jerome and scchug22, Would you mind kindly reconcile or revela source.

    My data is for all approved PERM case all countries in 2005 (so is incomplete).

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  • Bestia,

    I am not fighting with you believe it or not - just that some things said on this forum are just downright nasty. FYI though.. the Congo WAS colonized and terrorized by the Europeans. Hear of the Belgian Congo?? I don't know about Sierra Leone though.

    "Nasty" - might be just person's opinion. We don't have right to GC, but we have right to nasty opinions. I used to live in Maryland and was so tired of being careful when using words starting with "black*", "Afro*", "slave*", etc. Everything was always tended to be interpreted as implication, that someone is inferior to someone, etc. etc. The only solution was just to keep my mouth shut. And this is in country which is so proud of "free speech".

    OK, I stand corrected, maybe not "colonized", but "settled" (still it's a wrong term - "immigrated"? Natives didn't have any immigration laws, though, so Europeans didn't brake any law). Europeans came here to build cities and live here. Congo was colonized for trading (robbing if you wish) purposes, slave trade, etc. That's the key difference.

    But we are far from ROW/India+China debate :) I'm from ROW and it's my 8th year in the US, and all these years I'm "enjoying" not having any quota.

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  • You are using labor substitution and also trying to use Part time work done by you in the college. Think yourself it is correct or not. I am sure it is the mistake of company. Many people in the forum are having 10 years of experience but waiting so long. So the the frustration is acceptable.

    Labor substitution is not correct and injustice to those who are waiting for long time even if it is not sold. Legally it may be correct but this practice must be abolished. Only less than 10% of labor substitutions are genueine and others are causing delays to those who are waiting long time.Companies especially consulting companies are using every loophole in the immigration to make money. For example when there is no H1b they are bringing by L1 eventhough that position is not eligible for L1. Actually american system is Law to monitor companies and indivdual are so liberal and expected to follow Ethics. But nowadays in immigration they are trying to find every loophole in the immigration to increase the revenues of Company.

    Mr. Janak,
    Do you understand English? First of all, i had mentioned, i am BEING offered, meaning i havent gone for the labor yet and even if i do there will be no buying or selling involved.
    Second of all, i am sick and tired of stereotype Indians like you, who ASSUME everything without knowing anything and come out with your own theories from the bizzarro world [i know, pathetic loosers like to vent at any and every opportunities they get. Spare me your crap, if u dont know anything and cant help, then just stay quiet.]

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  • not just 5 years,
    make it a retrogressed date for coming out of prison for such people. They will understand what retrogression is and will wait endlesslessly for their date of freedom to become current.:)
    stay in jail forever and when the date becomes current ... go back to the home country empty handed to start all over again.

    btw, everyone filing GCs from small companies need to be very careful. Some members are asking about company A or B on the forum these days. You need to directly ask the employer all these questions before joiniing them. Sometimes even after approval of 140 or even till you get the actual GC your application can be denied for GC if:
    - The company is found to be fraud/ involved in any fruad by USCS or DOL
    - the company has excess GC applications and cannot show ability to pay (company profitability per year) for all of them. Small companies typically may be involved in wrongh tax practices by hiding their actual profits. The company may have filed several GC applications and sometimes initial applications may get approved but later can be denied. IN that case USCIS can also deny all previously approved applications.
    - The company is H1B dependent. (more H1Bs . There is a percentage defined by USCIS). Ths will raise red flags in their system.
    - The applicant is related to the owner of the company. This also can be a reason for denial and red flagging of a company for all other applicants.
    - Physical location and legitimacy of the company. In the past some applicants applied through companies in Maine even though they were not working in Maine. This was to get faster LCs before the Perm process started. Sometimes such cases also raises doubts.

    Be careful with every step you take. GC application is very important and you do not want to take such risks and regret later.

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  • Thanks you everyone and taking a lead on this thread. we must try to get a lot of media coverage on this issue.

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  • It is a shame India does not act to protect the interests of its citizens even after this news came up.

    Why do you think it is Indian citizens? Just because some politicians are saying so for their own gains all Tamilians in Srilanka are not Indian citizen.

    Heck, even USA is trying harder than India by using its muscle to block billions of dollars of IMF funds to SL for not caring about ceasefire.

    Are you suggesting India should start playing the role of world police as USA.

    LTTE is the one who took the life of our beloved leader Rajiv Gandhi who would have taken India to much high in the world. And why should India protect them.

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  • So you realized at the age of 35 that you needed MBA? Many smarter ones realized that at 25-30 age range. And they are the ones who will become future CEOs.

    Another thing, I would question is your judgement to leave Microsoft. That was the best company in your days, although now its Google. I still think Microsoft is number 2 employer with the kind of benefits and stability they provide. Hello ...... they had first layoffs in 2009 and that too only 5000. My wife works there and I have told her to put in many years there even before she considers a change. Why did you leave them man? You asked for all your present day troubles due to this decision.

    Now you are saying , L1s will dump low cost MBAs. Do you know the value of IIMA? First qualify for the college and get a admission and then say it is low cost education. You are not even trying for that college, coz you know you wont get in. Now you can get 1 yr PGPX MBA in IIM-A for 20 lakh Rs (USD 40K), but I bet the quality of graduates is better than your 100K MBA. Before dismissing them as low cost, do some introspection of talent.

    My friend did MBA from IIM-B, he is a top performer, today he is a managing partner in Wipro consulting. No doubt he started like me at 60K salary in US, but look at his performance and rise. I respect him a lot. He doesnt have GC yet. I have tons of friends from Whartons, Kellogs, UChicago , IIM-A etc. The college I respect most is IIM-A.

    So before dismissing them as low cost, first try to get in there, qualify, refuse admission and then dismiss them as low cost. You are paying 100K for MBA is because you did not qualify for low cost MBA.

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  • Fu&^*& desi companies are still advertising for pre approved labor, here is what I got from a desi company. Looks like this labor is cleared from Backlog, they take advantage of this and make money. Its fu$%%$ jackpot for these kind of companies.

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  • Most sickening part was UPA leaders only concentrated on abusing, denying and accusing. They never told the voters if they did any work in last 5 years. I know there wasn't a lot to tell but still the whole campaign is kind of useless...and the role of media is amazing, they just covered 5 people Maino Antonia, Rahul Gandhi, Priyanka Gandhi, Advani & Modi as if nobody else exist in the country. Priyanka Gandhi wakes up every 5 years during elections and media runs after...How sick a country we are ???

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  • for 2 hours, Sharukh Khan may have felt like common man. WOW.

    Yes, it does look stupid, every guy with name KHAN looks like terrorist for homeland security officers.

    Other officers recognized him within 15 minutes, This particuler officer did not listed to them. Yes, there are some officers who think they are "Sharukh Khan"s of US immigration system.

    I agree, they have every right to question him, not for 2 hours though...

    Looks like this is going to help his upcoming movie with publicity.

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  • Hello and Thanks for the Services... My question is.... My wife got H1 until 2010(Visa on PP too) but she is working for different Employer on EAD. Now she wants to travel to India and come back on H1, is this possible? We applied of AP, but I don't think so it will come before Nov 15th.. please advice. Thanks !!

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  • I never said that I'm disloyal to India or anything derogatory about India.

    My statement "shame to hold Indian passport" is to express my resentment and to protest against the polices of the govt of India towards the Sri Lankan Tamil issue. I believe in freedom of expression and I have every right to protest what I deemed to be injustice.

    I saying it again, in this country even burning of the national flag is considered a form of protest.

    I'm expressing my feelings, if you or your so called "Tamil friends" are not matured enough to understand freedom expression and genuine protesting, I don't care and i don't owe any explanation to any one. Also I don't care what judgments other make about me.


    you are such a contradicting personality. If I take the above oath, at least I will be loyal to the country of my citizenship. somebody washed your brain with too much of what it is not in reality. You have to put your country before your race, color, ethnicity and religion. That is what I learnt as definition for citizenship. I have very good tamil friends and even showed your statement. I am glad that they just hate your personality and you are an atypical Indian tamil.

    All that I'm saying is why do you need to single out one politician. Can you compare YSR with Mr. Modi(Ghodra Express Issue), Mr Advani(Babri Mazdid Issue)...on how many innocent lives have been lost because of their filthy politics...

    And mind you , you and me are working here in US cos of the open policies created by Mr.Late Rajiv Gandhi in the IT Sector. All that I'm saying is someone or something is better than none.

    For that matter do you support War on Iraq , War on Afghanistan when it comes to people lives...
    First know the facts before you comment and have guts to comment revealing your original ID and not with a hidden one....created just for the sake of it

    chill - u r working in US because have skills - got visa applied for Green card. In what way did Rajiv Gandhi help you? So do you say that everyone immigrating to USA from every country is because of Rajiv Gandhi?

    I see that u r arguing just for the sake of arguement. Come on man. expand your thinking capacity - U r responsible for your own life and you do things in life that suits you. Just like how u r a software guru, politics is also a field which has become a "career oriented" field. Now, a lot of people trashed SRK during discussions, I did not understand what his fault was, for such trashing.

    Now, the reason why a lot of people trash YSR is because of his corruptive governance - which crossed all limits.

    If you think that one has to respect someone just because he/she is a leader - that may not be practical

    Consulting companies are just the tip of the ice burg. They should really target infy, wipro, TCS like companies. They are the one truly exploiting the sytem to the fullest. They do not sponsor GC, do not pay the good salary or any benefit to the employee. I also dont see the share holders are rewared. God knows where all the profits are going. (which holes are getting filled)?

    I agree with you completely. I don't know what Infy and Wipro are doing with their money but TCS was filling Tata Motors and Tata Steel historically. Also buying companies like Land Rover and Jaguar while screwing their employees.

    Are they using TCS money to subsidize Tata Nano?

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