I agree with this. Please Include Current Homeowners in the proposal, who are already contributing to economy while still waiting for the Greencard. Current Homeowners should not be be left out from the proposal.
Nixtor,
I like your idea, but please consider current homeowners as well in your proposal. I understand that if new homeowners are removed from the queue I am standing in, it will benefit me. But seriously, I will not get immediate relief. I will have to continue to wait in some queue for another decade. I have been in the US since 1994, completed 6 years of education and have been employed since 2000. My PD was current for 2 months, I am still sitting here looking at a dismal October Visa Bulletin. Yes, I bought my house 4 years ago. Why can't I be included in this list?
Should I promise to buy a second home? Will that put me in the category you are proposing?
Nixtor,
I like your idea, but please consider current homeowners as well in your proposal. I understand that if new homeowners are removed from the queue I am standing in, it will benefit me. But seriously, I will not get immediate relief. I will have to continue to wait in some queue for another decade. I have been in the US since 1994, completed 6 years of education and have been employed since 2000. My PD was current for 2 months, I am still sitting here looking at a dismal October Visa Bulletin. Yes, I bought my house 4 years ago. Why can't I be included in this list?
Should I promise to buy a second home? Will that put me in the category you are proposing?
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This is precisely not what i wanted to hear.
It puts a damper on hope.
Now we have to hope against hope to see any movement forward.
There are only 3 ways i can see for improvement
1. Legislation
2. New legislation
3. And fast legislation
It puts a damper on hope.
Now we have to hope against hope to see any movement forward.
There are only 3 ways i can see for improvement
1. Legislation
2. New legislation
3. And fast legislation
Will this rule effect on EAD and AC21 also?
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as far as I don't agree about the system where people who come in after us get their GC through labor substitution, and the system is being abused. I wish they would count years of stay in America, rather than anything else:)
Otherwise how would you explain the sudden rise in EB1 filings and a quota which never used to be over in previous years suddenly has cut-off dates.
If we keep quiet, these same clowns will use up all the visas and smirk at us for filing in the "lower" categories. What a backdoor to a green card! :mad:
Those clowns will rot in hell! All those unworthy idiots will never make it here till the end.
If we keep quiet, these same clowns will use up all the visas and smirk at us for filing in the "lower" categories. What a backdoor to a green card! :mad:
Those clowns will rot in hell! All those unworthy idiots will never make it here till the end.
Let us all promise ourselves that we will not get personal with each other. No abusive, foul language.
We can disagree with each other but we have to watch our tone and not engage in personal attacks.
Oh God AmitJoye. Your sense of honour and right and worng was missed at least by me. Have you seen the posts here by all the esteemed senior members and donors of IV. And to top it all they are now asking me to explain my ideas (Prove my intention) but i see no proof of intention from them
I fear that you really need a moderator to kill all abusive comments because they are doing more harm to IV and IV needs all teh new members it can get. An organisation like this needs new intake of fresh blood to keep running. I am surprised no one from core or admin has admonished the abusers. I had hoped they would be prevented from shooting themselves in the foot.
PS on a side note i am now up to Minus 3000. That must a be a record. Sad day for everyone here on IV including me
We can disagree with each other but we have to watch our tone and not engage in personal attacks.
Oh God AmitJoye. Your sense of honour and right and worng was missed at least by me. Have you seen the posts here by all the esteemed senior members and donors of IV. And to top it all they are now asking me to explain my ideas (Prove my intention) but i see no proof of intention from them
I fear that you really need a moderator to kill all abusive comments because they are doing more harm to IV and IV needs all teh new members it can get. An organisation like this needs new intake of fresh blood to keep running. I am surprised no one from core or admin has admonished the abusers. I had hoped they would be prevented from shooting themselves in the foot.
PS on a side note i am now up to Minus 3000. That must a be a record. Sad day for everyone here on IV including me
I don't think so. 7% limit has been there for a very long time. Unused visas from prior years for ac21 purposes were still subject to 7% in current year. The 7% rule was unchanged.
It seems that you think that the unused visas from prior year were not subject to 7%. There is nothing of the sort that allows this.
I am not saying 7% is not applicable for recaptured numbers. EB3-ROW was current while EB3-IN,Ch retrogressed in 2005.
Again 7% is not a quota or minimum or maximum. It is a guiding tool to avoid monopoly (not to prevent) for fist two months in a quarter and gave the remaining number to third month. It is not meant for reservation.
As you said Bangaldeshies can not raise flag they as have not consumed 7% quota. Therefore one can not argue that Bangladesh-EB3 should be "current".
At the end, first-come first served should prevails.
It seems that you think that the unused visas from prior year were not subject to 7%. There is nothing of the sort that allows this.
I am not saying 7% is not applicable for recaptured numbers. EB3-ROW was current while EB3-IN,Ch retrogressed in 2005.
Again 7% is not a quota or minimum or maximum. It is a guiding tool to avoid monopoly (not to prevent) for fist two months in a quarter and gave the remaining number to third month. It is not meant for reservation.
As you said Bangaldeshies can not raise flag they as have not consumed 7% quota. Therefore one can not argue that Bangladesh-EB3 should be "current".
At the end, first-come first served should prevails.
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I agree Teddykoochu.
Think what will happen if they woke up one fine morning and start another new interpretation of an existing law and then later they start doing it retroactively; just imagine the cascading effect.
It does not matter which side of the ship is taking fire. It seems to me that people on the left side of the boat are happy that the firing is only on the right side, forgetting it is the ship as a whole which is taking fire.
This only reminds me of the famous poem by Martin Niem�ller which goes like this.
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out."
To get the gravity of the situation, substitute it with which ever suits you ! EAD/consulting H1/direct H1/AOS pending/485 not filed/EB3/2/1....etc etc.. Behind all these fancy terms, numbers and notations there are people, children and families who are going thru difficult situations.
Think what will happen if they woke up one fine morning and start another new interpretation of an existing law and then later they start doing it retroactively; just imagine the cascading effect.
It does not matter which side of the ship is taking fire. It seems to me that people on the left side of the boat are happy that the firing is only on the right side, forgetting it is the ship as a whole which is taking fire.
This only reminds me of the famous poem by Martin Niem�ller which goes like this.
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out."
To get the gravity of the situation, substitute it with which ever suits you ! EAD/consulting H1/direct H1/AOS pending/485 not filed/EB3/2/1....etc etc.. Behind all these fancy terms, numbers and notations there are people, children and families who are going thru difficult situations.
On the contrary, fight for keeping the country limits will kill the movement as Indians who form more than 80% of IV will feel disillusioned and leave. Once that happens ROW can as well kiss the GC increase good bye.
Like grupak mentioned real workable solution is 1) Increase overall numbers (will benefit ROW as well as oversubscribed countries) 2) Eliminate the meaningless country quota. If there is an increase in overall numbers removal of country quotas will have very low impact on ROW. This is the fact.
But there are still some fanatics who pick up fights to keep the country quotas intact. If all of them quit IV damage will still be minimum, when compared to Indians (80% of IV) leaving. Movement will survive and thrive. How many ROW were there at DC rally? Of those present, half were on the stage. Of course I'm exaggerating, but not by much.
My challenge to ROW members who keep on harping about the split in the movement - PARTICIPATE!! Just being active on the forum and posting a hundred posts doesn't make you part of the movement. I hardly see many ROW members volunteering or accepting leadership roles. Unlike EB immigration, IV is open to everyone no matter where you were born. We don't have any 7% quota per country ! And yet, why are the active volunteers, leadership, contributors - the REAL movement- is disproportinately Indian.
Want to influence the movement, be a significant part of it. That's real democracy.
A row — also called a record or tuple—represents a single, implicitly structured data item in a table :) (I think the discussion becomes too hot, time to cool down, folks. The solution is not to remove per country limits, but to increase EB quota or at least to recapture lost visa numbers. Fight for removing per country limits will divide IV and is very unlikely to achieve something.)
Like grupak mentioned real workable solution is 1) Increase overall numbers (will benefit ROW as well as oversubscribed countries) 2) Eliminate the meaningless country quota. If there is an increase in overall numbers removal of country quotas will have very low impact on ROW. This is the fact.
But there are still some fanatics who pick up fights to keep the country quotas intact. If all of them quit IV damage will still be minimum, when compared to Indians (80% of IV) leaving. Movement will survive and thrive. How many ROW were there at DC rally? Of those present, half were on the stage. Of course I'm exaggerating, but not by much.
My challenge to ROW members who keep on harping about the split in the movement - PARTICIPATE!! Just being active on the forum and posting a hundred posts doesn't make you part of the movement. I hardly see many ROW members volunteering or accepting leadership roles. Unlike EB immigration, IV is open to everyone no matter where you were born. We don't have any 7% quota per country ! And yet, why are the active volunteers, leadership, contributors - the REAL movement- is disproportinately Indian.
Want to influence the movement, be a significant part of it. That's real democracy.
A row — also called a record or tuple—represents a single, implicitly structured data item in a table :) (I think the discussion becomes too hot, time to cool down, folks. The solution is not to remove per country limits, but to increase EB quota or at least to recapture lost visa numbers. Fight for removing per country limits will divide IV and is very unlikely to achieve something.)
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Here are the authentic numbers from FLCDataCenter.com (http://flcdatacenter.com/CasePerm.aspx)
My analysis from those mdb files: (they are tricky because the data is for FY2005 while the priority date calculations we are doing are for the calendar year)
calendar year 2005 ( received date between 3/19/2005 - 12/31/2005) = 8645
year 2006 (rcv date between 1/1/2006 - 9/27/2006) = 15008
after this it gets bad since the data has no receipt date, only certified date. my estimate is around 12000 for those 3 months of 2006.(total number of certified PERMs between 10/2/2006 - 03/31/2007 = 13873)
total PERM approvals with PD between march 2005 and Dec 2006 ~ 37000
If EB2 is 50%, we are talking ~19000, with an avg of 2.5 GCs per PERM, we need 47,500 GCs between Mar 05 and Jan 07.
Good luck every one :(:D:mad:
My analysis from those mdb files: (they are tricky because the data is for FY2005 while the priority date calculations we are doing are for the calendar year)
calendar year 2005 ( received date between 3/19/2005 - 12/31/2005) = 8645
year 2006 (rcv date between 1/1/2006 - 9/27/2006) = 15008
after this it gets bad since the data has no receipt date, only certified date. my estimate is around 12000 for those 3 months of 2006.(total number of certified PERMs between 10/2/2006 - 03/31/2007 = 13873)
total PERM approvals with PD between march 2005 and Dec 2006 ~ 37000
If EB2 is 50%, we are talking ~19000, with an avg of 2.5 GCs per PERM, we need 47,500 GCs between Mar 05 and Jan 07.
Good luck every one :(:D:mad:
There is no doubt Everyone knows that H1b and GC laws are crazy. For that we need to fight to change the law but should not encourage to violate the law. If USCIS violates law lawsuit should be filed. That is the rightway.
Isn't that the point what all anti-consulting folks are making here ? They want all existing laws (plus all laws they themselves created to satisfy their sadistic self) to be strictly followed. If that is the case snram4's relative should have been deported.
What many do not understand is H1B laws are insane and irrational. Many from our country doesn't have the guts to fight crazy laws. All they are good at is screwing their own fellow country men out of jealousy or selfishness.
Do all these folks follow law judiciously in their life ? I don't think so. Some of the folks here acting like bhagat singh came to this stage of life climbing over loads of corruption.
Isn't that the point what all anti-consulting folks are making here ? They want all existing laws (plus all laws they themselves created to satisfy their sadistic self) to be strictly followed. If that is the case snram4's relative should have been deported.
What many do not understand is H1B laws are insane and irrational. Many from our country doesn't have the guts to fight crazy laws. All they are good at is screwing their own fellow country men out of jealousy or selfishness.
Do all these folks follow law judiciously in their life ? I don't think so. Some of the folks here acting like bhagat singh came to this stage of life climbing over loads of corruption.
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Thanks Thampi. Someone does not see that as funny as you. Gave me two reds. But I dont care. That was a just a joke and I did not belittle anyone.
:D:D:p:D Very funny. I just love this thread. For a moment we can forget about the stupid GC fiasco.
:D:D:p:D Very funny. I just love this thread. For a moment we can forget about the stupid GC fiasco.
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Not sure if it was answered anywhere for similar situation..
Here is my situation. I would like to see my options:
1) I am on H1B (7th year and got extended for 3 yrs) and applied 485, received EAD from company A (140 approved).
2) Applied 485 for wife and kid and got EAD last July.
3) Category is EB3-I PD of Apr 06.
4) Though I was eligible for EB2 (13 yrs exp before joining company A) becas of Company A (they decided not to open EB2 position at that time). I was forced to go to EB3.
5) I am getting offer from my client and my company has agreed me to support. but client won't do H1 so I have to use EAD
6) in this case, can I get a another company (for future employment) to file for my GC on EB2? Will they be able to do it without H1 to them?
7) if so what would be the implications?
Thanks in advance!
Here is my situation. I would like to see my options:
1) I am on H1B (7th year and got extended for 3 yrs) and applied 485, received EAD from company A (140 approved).
2) Applied 485 for wife and kid and got EAD last July.
3) Category is EB3-I PD of Apr 06.
4) Though I was eligible for EB2 (13 yrs exp before joining company A) becas of Company A (they decided not to open EB2 position at that time). I was forced to go to EB3.
5) I am getting offer from my client and my company has agreed me to support. but client won't do H1 so I have to use EAD
6) in this case, can I get a another company (for future employment) to file for my GC on EB2? Will they be able to do it without H1 to them?
7) if so what would be the implications?
Thanks in advance!
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Dear Sir,
This is my situation
1. Applied for H1B Extension on Jul-10-2007
2. Got RFE on Mar-2008 and replied to RFE on Apr-2008
RFE: 1. client contract 2. last 2 yrs my tax return
3. After Reply to RFE no news from USCIS
4. Applied for Premium processing on Jul-14-2008
5. I485 Pending and having EAD/AP for my family and Jul-09-2008 applied for EAD Renewal
My Questions:
1. Since my H1B expired on Jul-14 What is my status? Can I work till I get my H1B approval?.
2. How can I expedite the H1B Process ? (already upgraded to PP)
3. If I get approval , do I need to go back to home country to get stamping?
Thanks for your time and help.
Regards,
watgc
You should have got a response from USCIS by now or by tomorrow latest. If not then they will have to refund your fee. Once you get approved, when you travel outside of US you will have to get your H-1 B visa -either in your home country or Mexico or Canada.
This is my situation
1. Applied for H1B Extension on Jul-10-2007
2. Got RFE on Mar-2008 and replied to RFE on Apr-2008
RFE: 1. client contract 2. last 2 yrs my tax return
3. After Reply to RFE no news from USCIS
4. Applied for Premium processing on Jul-14-2008
5. I485 Pending and having EAD/AP for my family and Jul-09-2008 applied for EAD Renewal
My Questions:
1. Since my H1B expired on Jul-14 What is my status? Can I work till I get my H1B approval?.
2. How can I expedite the H1B Process ? (already upgraded to PP)
3. If I get approval , do I need to go back to home country to get stamping?
Thanks for your time and help.
Regards,
watgc
You should have got a response from USCIS by now or by tomorrow latest. If not then they will have to refund your fee. Once you get approved, when you travel outside of US you will have to get your H-1 B visa -either in your home country or Mexico or Canada.
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Dear Attorney,
I am from India and working as a Software Programmer / Analyst in a decent company and I am using AC21 with this company...and my Green Card journey started September 2002.
Labor applied (EB3) - September 2002
Labor approved - July 2003
I-140 / I-485 applied - December 2003
I_140 approved - August 2004 after responding to an RFE
Two times finger prints done and name check is done.
RFE about sons birth certificate -- responded last year.
But still the way things are going with Visa numbers and seems no light at the end of the tunnel. I am decided to change EB3 to EB2.
What would you suggest?
Where can I find the process for this switch (EB3 to EB2) ??
Is there any benefit switching from AOS to Consular Process?
Thanks and appreciate your response.
I am from India and working as a Software Programmer / Analyst in a decent company and I am using AC21 with this company...and my Green Card journey started September 2002.
Labor applied (EB3) - September 2002
Labor approved - July 2003
I-140 / I-485 applied - December 2003
I_140 approved - August 2004 after responding to an RFE
Two times finger prints done and name check is done.
RFE about sons birth certificate -- responded last year.
But still the way things are going with Visa numbers and seems no light at the end of the tunnel. I am decided to change EB3 to EB2.
What would you suggest?
Where can I find the process for this switch (EB3 to EB2) ??
Is there any benefit switching from AOS to Consular Process?
Thanks and appreciate your response.
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what is surprising that one person ..dilipcr ..in this case ..is able to divert the attention of the members.
in other words, maybe in future, one anti-immigrant can pose as dilip ..keep a senseless debate alive ..and divert attention.
---------- are we doing this because there are no visible big campaigns alive ? or does it mean that if we defeat Dilip in this debate then we will get our GC's (please note I am not following this thread ...though I was initially),.. Thanks
in other words, maybe in future, one anti-immigrant can pose as dilip ..keep a senseless debate alive ..and divert attention.
---------- are we doing this because there are no visible big campaigns alive ? or does it mean that if we defeat Dilip in this debate then we will get our GC's (please note I am not following this thread ...though I was initially),.. Thanks
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Sachug22,
I can pretty much guarantee you, if there is no quarterly spillover, your projections for without quarterly spillover are way too optimistic.
Your with quarterly spillover numbers are probably closer.
Of course with the USCIS, all rules, logic and common sense goes out the window. Poor State Dept has to read them and their productivity/intentions monthly, and of course we are on the receiving end of their non sense.
I can pretty much guarantee you, if there is no quarterly spillover, your projections for without quarterly spillover are way too optimistic.
Your with quarterly spillover numbers are probably closer.
Of course with the USCIS, all rules, logic and common sense goes out the window. Poor State Dept has to read them and their productivity/intentions monthly, and of course we are on the receiving end of their non sense.
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They keep the passport.
But it didn't take 45 days for me. I got it in 2 weeks.
For the Police certificate at the Indian consulate, do they keep the passport for 45 days i.e. until clearance is received. Or do we get the passport back the same day on which we apply and then the certificate is sent later.
But it didn't take 45 days for me. I got it in 2 weeks.
For the Police certificate at the Indian consulate, do they keep the passport for 45 days i.e. until clearance is received. Or do we get the passport back the same day on which we apply and then the certificate is sent later.
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You can pack your bags and leave. You are here by your own choice, and work within the legal framework of the country. You are free to leave when you please.
The slavery argument doesn't hold.
jazz
Modern Day Slavery in the 21st century
Any person who is restricted from making travel choices, employer choice, personal choices beneficial to himself and his family, just because his employer or the goverment is restricting him in some form to make monetary benefit for itself, is called a slave.
I have reached the critical mass in me to take this up on my own, any legal advice and moral support from you guys would be appreciated.
Thanks
The slavery argument doesn't hold.
jazz
Modern Day Slavery in the 21st century
Any person who is restricted from making travel choices, employer choice, personal choices beneficial to himself and his family, just because his employer or the goverment is restricting him in some form to make monetary benefit for itself, is called a slave.
I have reached the critical mass in me to take this up on my own, any legal advice and moral support from you guys would be appreciated.
Thanks
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/02/ap3879453.html
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Legal Workers Lose Chance at Green Cards
Monday, July 02, 2007
By SUZANNE GAMBOA, Associated Press Writer
E-MAIL STORY PRINTER FRIENDLY VERSION
WASHINGTON � Legal immigrants hoping to be first in line for employer-sponsored green cards lost time and money when the government suddenly announced Monday that no new applications would be taken until the fall, a lawyers group said.
Tens of thousands of people who work in the United States under employment visas and their families were affected by the change, said Crystal Williams, associate director for programs at the American Immigration Lawyers Association.
"There are people who flew to the United States so they could apply and had their families fly back. They paid attorney fees," Williams said.
The State Department announced last month that employment visa numbers were available for all people seeking employer-sponsored green cards, except unskilled workers. It sometimes takes years for applicants to get those numbers.
The announcement meant that as early as Monday, Citizenship and Immigration Services would begin accepting applications. The applications are hefty, requiring medical exams, a lot of documentation and the applicant's presence in the United States.
But an update on the State Department Web site posted Monday said 60,000 such numbers were no longer available because of "the sudden backlog reduction efforts by Citizenship and Immigration Services offices during the past month."
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The department called the backlog reduction an "unexpected action" and said employment visa numbers would be available again Oct. 1.
The State Department has been flooded with passport applications since new rules went into effect in January requiring passports for air travelers returning from the same destinations. The resulting backlog has caused delays of up to three months for passports and ruined or delayed the travel plans of thousands of people.
A spokesman at the State Department declined to comment.
Williams said several workers within Citizenship and Immigration Services told her and other lawyers that the agency had staffers working through the weekend to resolve pending cases. She said several lawyers reported getting phone calls from the agency with questions about applications when normally that happens by mail.
Chris Rhatigan, spokeswoman for Citizenship and Immigration Services, denied the weekend work occurred or that there was a push to use up the visa numbers. She said the agency had pending cases from previous months.
The fee to apply for a green card increases July 30 from $395 to $1,010, including a fingerprinting fee.
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On the Net:
State Department: http://www.state.gov/
Citizenship and Immigration Services: http://www.uscis.gov
Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
Legal Workers Lose Chance at Green Cards
Monday, July 02, 2007
By SUZANNE GAMBOA, Associated Press Writer
E-MAIL STORY PRINTER FRIENDLY VERSION
WASHINGTON � Legal immigrants hoping to be first in line for employer-sponsored green cards lost time and money when the government suddenly announced Monday that no new applications would be taken until the fall, a lawyers group said.
Tens of thousands of people who work in the United States under employment visas and their families were affected by the change, said Crystal Williams, associate director for programs at the American Immigration Lawyers Association.
"There are people who flew to the United States so they could apply and had their families fly back. They paid attorney fees," Williams said.
The State Department announced last month that employment visa numbers were available for all people seeking employer-sponsored green cards, except unskilled workers. It sometimes takes years for applicants to get those numbers.
The announcement meant that as early as Monday, Citizenship and Immigration Services would begin accepting applications. The applications are hefty, requiring medical exams, a lot of documentation and the applicant's presence in the United States.
But an update on the State Department Web site posted Monday said 60,000 such numbers were no longer available because of "the sudden backlog reduction efforts by Citizenship and Immigration Services offices during the past month."
(Story continues below)
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The department called the backlog reduction an "unexpected action" and said employment visa numbers would be available again Oct. 1.
The State Department has been flooded with passport applications since new rules went into effect in January requiring passports for air travelers returning from the same destinations. The resulting backlog has caused delays of up to three months for passports and ruined or delayed the travel plans of thousands of people.
A spokesman at the State Department declined to comment.
Williams said several workers within Citizenship and Immigration Services told her and other lawyers that the agency had staffers working through the weekend to resolve pending cases. She said several lawyers reported getting phone calls from the agency with questions about applications when normally that happens by mail.
Chris Rhatigan, spokeswoman for Citizenship and Immigration Services, denied the weekend work occurred or that there was a push to use up the visa numbers. She said the agency had pending cases from previous months.
The fee to apply for a green card increases July 30 from $395 to $1,010, including a fingerprinting fee.
___
On the Net:
State Department: http://www.state.gov/
Citizenship and Immigration Services: http://www.uscis.gov
Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
