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  • I dont think there will be a change to already in pipeline cases. Lets wait and see .:)





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  • I have seen this dog and pony show one too many times. Every year, people think that next year's quota of 140,000 will cause the dates for India and China to go forward in the October Bulletin. October will be the end of misery.

    Each year, in October bulletin, for India/China EB3, the dates are either stagnant or they go back to 1998 or 1999.

    The thing is, as long as there is this per-country quota rationing of green cards, ROW folks will keep moving to the HOV lane and each year, in Oct to Dec timeframe their dates will get current and they will get GCs.

    And each year, the dates for India and China will keep yo-yoing between 1998 and 2002, will never move forward, because if per-country limits are applied to 140,000 greencards, then there is very very little leftover that flows to India/China.

    So without an increase in Quota or without removal of per-country discrimination, nothing is going to happen either in Oct 2008 or Oct 2009 or Oct 2010. It will keep fluctuating between 1998 and 2002. That is the bracket for India and China.





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  • 7 pages of this and I don't think there is any clear information on how many applied betweek Jan and April-1 of 2005. I saw a post somewhere where someone said Cisco alone had about 1000 applications. Now if you add dependents to it that is almost a years quota of EB2,just from Cisco!!! I think easily there are around 5000 EB2 applicants in just that time frame. My 2 cents.





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  • I have built a very simple EB2-I Visa predition model

    Making following assumption

    15000 new EB2 ROW I-485 applications
    12000 new EB1 I-485 applications
    EB4/EB5 use 70% of allocated visa (30% spillover)


    EB2 Visa Bulletin prediction for FY 2010
    Bulletin Quarterly-spillover Annual Spillover
    Oct-09 22-Jan-2005 22-Jan-2005
    Nov-09 22-Jan-2005 22-Jan-2005
    Dec-09 31-Mar-2005 1-Feb-2005
    Jan-10 31-Mar-2005 15-Feb-2005
    Feb-10 31-Mar-2005 31-Mar-2005
    Mar-10 31-Mar-2006 31-Mar-2005
    Apr-10 31-Mar-2006 31-Mar-2005
    May-10 31-Mar-2006 31-Mar-2005
    Jun-10 15-Oct-2006 31-Mar-2005
    Jul-10 15-Oct-2006 30-Sep-2005
    Aug-10 15-Oct-2006 30-Apr-2007
    Sep-10 31-Mar-2007 30-May-2007

    Sachug, it is a great attempt to compare the quarterly and annual spill overs. I made rough calculations couple of weeks ago with annual spill over. However, I assumed around 25K ROW visas(both pending and new) for EB2. And assumed only aroudn 125K for AOS keeping 15K for CP. I will compile all of my assumptions and post here. Overall, my calcs estimated EB2 move to Dec 2006. By the way, I hope you took China in to consideration for spill over.





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  • I guess there should be some T-Shirt to wear when going to Walmart or desi shop which says "Amway leaches keep away (some slogan)" to put these desi Amway guys to shame.

    When I moved to Cali about 2 yrs back from the midwest, I saw a guy at a desi store in the bay area who looked very similar to an old school friend whom I have not seen in 14 yrs. I went upto him and started talking to him asking if he was the same guy, He insulted me and avoided me like the plague. In midwest, I have not had any similar exp when I have tried stiking any conversation with a desi, so I was shocked. Then my BIL who had been living in the bay area for a while tole me about amway cons being in huge numbers and the fact that Desis do not trust anyone in the bayarea who appear friendly and the probable reason why this guy behaved the way he did. It is sad that we cannot be friendly to our own countrymen.





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  • This is the most accurate evaluation I have ever found on this forum regarding how USCIS works! :D

    For USCIS, 2007 was "let's reduce some backlog in EB3-category" year.
    It looks like 2008 is " let's reduce some backlog in EB2-category" year.
    On both occassions they hid their plans in right in front of us, and said "gotcha" to every one- AILA, IV prognosticators and Ron Gotchers of this world.

    I doubt USCIS will openly Re-revise the horizontal spill over policy. If they do that they may be challenged again forcing them to Re-Re-revise which will make them look even more stupider than they do now.

    There are other means by which USCIS can deliver justice- mafia style- but within the current law. They need additional help from DOS,DOL, etc.

    examples- (1) Generally sit on EB-2 adjudications, delay them and say there are unused EB2 numbers and allow them to spill over to EB-3

    (2) Clamp down even further on PERM - stretch it from 8 months to 36 months for every applicant including EB2-ROW, make even more unused numbers available to clear backlogs.


    p.s
    I do not harbor any ill-will towards ROW or any other category. I honestly think above things are possible. :)





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  • For all those that blame all the problems of the world on "illegal" immigration, including documented Latino immigrants, the news that so called "legal" immigrants hoping to be first in line for employer-sponsored green cards lost time and money when the government suddenly announced Monday that no new applications would be taken until the fall doesn't make the current system look so hot.

    The State Department announced last month that employment visa numbers were available for all people seeking employer-sponsored green cards, except unskilled workers. It sometimes takes years for applicants to get those numbers.
    The announcement meant that as early as Monday, Citizenship and Immigration Services would begin accepting applications. The applications are hefty, requiring medical exams, a lot of documentation and the applicant's presence in the United States.
    But an update on the State Department Web site posted Monday said 60,000 such numbers were no longer available because of "the sudden backlog reduction efforts by Citizenship and Immigration Services offices during the past month."
    The department called the backlog reduction an "unexpected action" and said employment visa numbers would be available again Oct. 1.

    Practically speaking, what does this mean? Tens of thousands of people who work in the United States under employment visas and their families were affected by the change. There are reports of family members flying in to apply only to have to fly back.

    Then people wonder why my faith in the immigration system and reforming it is nonexistent.

    http://vivirlatino.com/2007/07/02/even-documented-immigrants-facing-an-uphill-battle.php





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    Which country do you guys belong to and why are you here?

    Appreciate your honest and decent response. Thanks





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  • What has EB5 to do with amway?
    Did I mention I'm making millions? Obviously on the way, but atleast I have something to fall back to if I loose my job. Do you?

    Really... Millions... Have you checked the disclaimer in your lit pack under the 6-4-3 plan. A typical IBO makes $115 a month... Amway / BWW was forced to put this statement because of a lawsuit brought by Amway Diamonds and Double Diamonds... You can google...

    I know you will now state that "you don't want to be an average... an average corporate employee makes $30K.. etc.. etc.." (Straight from Brad Duncan's CD) I have used it myself hundreds of times on the prospects...

    "..veracity of this statement"
    Sure pick up the phone and dial IRS, or call your accountant. Or your lawyer if you want to play it safe.
    Other people doesn't do or will never do anything, other then wearing pantyhose and tip toeing through the tulips.

    By the way did you call IRS to check.. or you are just believing what Kanti / Kumar / Raj or any other Diamond told you.. Oh another thing that they regularly mention in their trainings "IRS and USCIS don't share data so IRS won't know if you are on H1 or not"... USCIS can ask for your Tax returns before granting Green Card...

    May be you have not received 1099 from Amway yet but the 1099 income on 1040 goes under a separate head "Self Employment"...

    I know you will respond with some nasty stuff but I urge you to take the emotional hat off and think rationally (which I know is very hard as I had faced the same things) about the direction that Amway is taking... especially in Indian community... Do you see many Indian faces these days in the Amway's Inspire magazine or new Rubys, Emeralds, or Diamonds...

    This is a good way to make some residual income (I still get monthly check 4 years after stopping to build it) but millions??? Not many EDCs and Diamonds make that money if you exclude the money from CDs, Books, CommuniKate etc..

    Good luck!





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  • Here are some of the debacle of Nehru. Some are STILL hunting us and world today.


    1. Choosing self over country (see "Sardar" movie for more details. All of congress wanted Sardar Patel as PM but Nehru insisted on him being PM. Can you imagine country today if Sardar Patel would have been the first PM of India?)

    2. His promise to hold public referendum in J&K under UN. Why should we invite UN for our internal matter?? Specially when the king of Kashmir has signed union with India himself.

    3. 1962 debacle. Though may not be a big deal to some people, it gave unrepairable scare which will hunt us and our army for decades to come.



    It is true everyone has made some sacrifices but consider if India were not a free country and if Nehru and others like Mahatma Gandhi didn't dedicate themselves to the cause of nation then would we be better off today? We failed to carry the torch left by them for us.

    Has anyone asked them to vote for Nehru dynasty after the blunders? Didnt anyone see it coming? Building society is everyone's responsibility. Not just Nehru or his children's.

    This is like saying we wasted one spot in Indian cricket team on Sachin Tendulkar when he scored 0 in some matches or didnt win a match for India.

    It is team work and collective responsibility that will make this country prosper. Blaming some person by saying all his fault and we are here because he screwed us is not the right thing to do. It just finds a scapegoat and does not solve the problem. We should learn from the mistakes the country has made and learn from them and move forward.





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  • I am ready to commit $25 for the initial consultation with Rajiv or some other lawyer. I have no qualms about raising my commitment if there is need.



    Even I am ready to put in $ 25 for the first consultation with Rajiv khanna or any other Lawyer IV core wants to go with. And if IV plans to go ahead with class action lawsuit as per requirement will raise my monetary commitment. please PM me if IV core plans to go ahead.





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  • I got the below numbers from the PERM FDLC site.
    2005 India 1353
    2006 India 3888
    2007 India 60
    2008 India 10

    Total 5311
    5311 for both EB1-5 : So taking 50% for EB2I - 2655
    GC : 2655*2.5 = 6637 ~ 6500 (considering lucky 2008 Aug-Sep approvals, 2009 Sept)

    Unless you source is different from mine, India total PERM LCs were as below.

    2005&2006 - 25000
    2007 - 25000
    2008 - Not many
    2009 - Not many, but unknown

    Even at 50% EB2, EB3, we will have a long wait. There will be a visa demand of upto 60,000 for EB2.

    We know that sometime back, one of an IV member got response from a senator that EB2 India backlog is 45,000. Even if I agree that there are 5K approvals in Sep 09 alone, EB2 still has 40,000 pending with PD before July. I am only adding 40% from there even though every India applicant knows that EB3 F***dup and a joke.

    So we have a long wait.. Lets admit it..





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  • Do some research on Nuclear deal and see what it will bring to India in the next couple of decades. And tell me what Mr.Advani brought us when they were in power.

    We need food and shelter to sleep than Nuclear Deal I like your Future prediction of Nuclear deal.!!. (obviously, we are hungry and looking for food and place to sleep :)

    Letz change the Govt and see what will they do in future. (We did n't see anything big with Congress for the past 4 decades -





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  • Try detaining any of their top Hollywood Heroes at an Indian airport for 2 hours and see how USA media and people will react to it.

    You people have no respect for your own motherland and always think everything American is good than your own country. Learn to stand up for your motherland. Just because you want your greencard does not mean you forget your roots. Anti-Immigrants (read racists) of this country will still call you slumdogs even if you are a citizen of this country. But your own country people will never forget you and will accept you as their own even if you have lived here for 50 years.

    Learn to love your motherland.

    Where is the question fo MOTHERLAND here?
    Did Indian media not raise hell on this issue? That is how the thread started.
    AajTak and Sahara Samay new channels kept showing it for a day.

    SRK is just like any other Indian. And how do you know he did not show ATTITUDE in those two hours to cause the interrogation to run 2 hours?

    Everyday many people are inquired by immigration officers. Should we start a new thread every day?





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  • Your handle name POORslumDOG shows your charactor.

    1. Why you are here. (poor)

    2. It shows where you are coming from.(slum)

    3. Your real charactor (animal).


    you must be a educated idiot to think like this. Yesterday 1200 people died in heart attack in India and more than 15000 across the world. You mean all are because of YSR. Use your pea nut size brain man.





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  • I would like to see Plainspeak's project plan on his idea. The plan should detail out timeline, budget, manpower and responsibilities. Most importantly what will Plainspeak do in this plan as a responsibility.

    Let us see if you can only write junk or can even post something useful.





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  • Ron Hira my friend you are on an immigration forum and you have an Anti Immigrant login id. Now what could be funnier than that Ha Ha...

    As to me being a guy phasshhhhhh i am all female

    And i am laughing in my pants seeing you confuse me with GCPerm. I remeber seeing that name on IV before. Was he an EB3 who was kicked out by you guys ?

    now i'm sure that u'r gcperm.... welcome back....





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  • I wish the statement is true.

    I think your friends cousin got the card by mistake, that does not mean that it will see a significant moment for EB3 I. The only possibility is if USICIS wants to recapture the unused visa numbers over a period of time, then EB2 I, EB3 I all move together.

    I think you are correct. Lets see how the next bulletin turns out to be.
    I just pray EB3I moves to June 05.





    Read complaint from NGWANYIA v. ASHCROFT case, you will find a lot of similarities with the current situation
    http://www.ailf.org/lac/lac_lit_101802.pdf

    Also those who are interested in active participation, please join yahoo group by sending e-mail to visa-recapture-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
    All we need is one or two members who have time and desire to start the process.





    Hi Attorney ,

    Thanks for your service.

    Iam July 2 2007 485 Filer ( EB2 - March 2005 India).
    I have received EAD & AP . Even we renewed our EAD and received Approval.

    but My wife & my self have not received BioMetric Appointment for 485 or EAD.

    As per August 2008 bullietin , Our PD will be current ...

    what will be the impact on 485 Approval , of not having BioMetric Appointment scheduled , even after 1 year of 485 filiing..

    Thanks again
    Bestofall ..



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