Point based system!!!! Is this is joke???? Tell me this is not true and this is just a bad dream, please!!!!
Let�s see what a point based system has done to people..... Whom do we have here, a doctor, an engineer and one MBA. OK!!! Lets see what Point based system did to these guys -
Doctor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX6h-Ut-ZaE
Engineer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCkmtQ4um9w
MBA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP9cQelrmc0
No offense to anybody from Canada. I am simply trying to illustrate the rationale about the GREATEST IDEA OF THE CENTURY, THE SILVER BULLET, THE FINAL FRONTIER TO ALL IMMIGRATION PROBLEMS - "point based system"!!!!! Oh really???
As such, Canada does not really have as many jobs as in US. Offcourse it is a fact that PhD and Doctors drive cabs in Canada because they can't find jobs, but someone who is not a US citizen finds a good job in USA because it is simply the land of opportunities.
I am not saying points system is the best, but opportunities play an important role and thats why US has so many jobs compared to other countries, though so many jobs are outsourced. There is always growing demand and the economy is huge and accomodative.
Canada on the other hand is still slow to add jobs it the pace America does because of the lack of infrastructure (As I have not been in Canada, I don't have much information on how things work, but I know for sure that getting jobs is very difficult)
We must have a seperate thread on merits and demerits of points based system over the existing system and the issues being faced in countries like Canada etc..
Let�s see what a point based system has done to people..... Whom do we have here, a doctor, an engineer and one MBA. OK!!! Lets see what Point based system did to these guys -
Doctor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX6h-Ut-ZaE
Engineer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCkmtQ4um9w
MBA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP9cQelrmc0
No offense to anybody from Canada. I am simply trying to illustrate the rationale about the GREATEST IDEA OF THE CENTURY, THE SILVER BULLET, THE FINAL FRONTIER TO ALL IMMIGRATION PROBLEMS - "point based system"!!!!! Oh really???
As such, Canada does not really have as many jobs as in US. Offcourse it is a fact that PhD and Doctors drive cabs in Canada because they can't find jobs, but someone who is not a US citizen finds a good job in USA because it is simply the land of opportunities.
I am not saying points system is the best, but opportunities play an important role and thats why US has so many jobs compared to other countries, though so many jobs are outsourced. There is always growing demand and the economy is huge and accomodative.
Canada on the other hand is still slow to add jobs it the pace America does because of the lack of infrastructure (As I have not been in Canada, I don't have much information on how things work, but I know for sure that getting jobs is very difficult)
We must have a seperate thread on merits and demerits of points based system over the existing system and the issues being faced in countries like Canada etc..
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can you add the words "highly skilled" infront of "immigrants" (see in red below)?
pappu
in response to your message, I have posted my original draft below, with a couple of changes based on my opinion - i.e. I believe in asking for only one thing at a time, and that is the skil bill, which will automatically provide for increased visa numbers. But each person can modify their version based on what they think.
If you think IV members should all be asking for the same thing then go ahead and modify this version.
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Dear xxx,
I belong to an organization called Immigration Voice, a small group (and to my knowledge the only one of its kind) that is attempting to help legal tax-paying highly skilled immigration applicants who have been in waiting in limbo for many years.
We are all highly skilled immigration applicants who are stuck in limbo, some for more than 8 years, despite being fully legal, tax paying and highly skilled.
Since the number of highly skilled legal immigrants is so small (less than a million) compared to the number of illegal immigrants (12 million) it is very difficult to get our voices heard about the problems caused by waiting in a seemingly endless queue. The issues, unlike those of illegals, are largely non-controversial, some as simple as asking USCIS to reduce our waiting time from 8+ years to a year.
Since we are all highly skilled in areas where there is a shortage of US available labor and provide a disproportionately large benefit to the US economy, we believe that approving our already filed applications on an expedited basis could be helpful to all of us.
Currently, a bill that is under consideration by Congress called the SKIL bill will solve almost all of these non-controversial issues.
I and my fellow members would much appreciate it if you could run a story on us, and/or direct us to a source that helps publicize our organization.
Please feel free to contact me directly at this email, or Immigration Voice at info@immigrationvoice.org
PO Box 114
Dayton
New Jersey -08810
(850) 391-4966
www.immigrationvoice.org
thanks in advance,
Name
can you add the words "highly skilled" infront of "immigrants" (see in red below)?
pappu
in response to your message, I have posted my original draft below, with a couple of changes based on my opinion - i.e. I believe in asking for only one thing at a time, and that is the skil bill, which will automatically provide for increased visa numbers. But each person can modify their version based on what they think.
If you think IV members should all be asking for the same thing then go ahead and modify this version.
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Dear xxx,
I belong to an organization called Immigration Voice, a small group (and to my knowledge the only one of its kind) that is attempting to help legal tax-paying highly skilled immigration applicants who have been in waiting in limbo for many years.
We are all highly skilled immigration applicants who are stuck in limbo, some for more than 8 years, despite being fully legal, tax paying and highly skilled.
Since the number of highly skilled legal immigrants is so small (less than a million) compared to the number of illegal immigrants (12 million) it is very difficult to get our voices heard about the problems caused by waiting in a seemingly endless queue. The issues, unlike those of illegals, are largely non-controversial, some as simple as asking USCIS to reduce our waiting time from 8+ years to a year.
Since we are all highly skilled in areas where there is a shortage of US available labor and provide a disproportionately large benefit to the US economy, we believe that approving our already filed applications on an expedited basis could be helpful to all of us.
Currently, a bill that is under consideration by Congress called the SKIL bill will solve almost all of these non-controversial issues.
I and my fellow members would much appreciate it if you could run a story on us, and/or direct us to a source that helps publicize our organization.
Please feel free to contact me directly at this email, or Immigration Voice at info@immigrationvoice.org
PO Box 114
Dayton
New Jersey -08810
(850) 391-4966
www.immigrationvoice.org
thanks in advance,
Name
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I was at USCIS this morning, followed every thing you suggested. My IO officer was actually a desi guy.
1) They completely refused to look at the received date, I had my EAD (765) receipt, but the IO said he only cares about the receipt date. I even has the print out from USCIS.gov in which they have mentioned that they will honor the date on which applications were received in the mail room but he did not budge. His argument was " That update is in the over all scheme of things, but for EAD they have specific instruction to follow only the date they entered the data in the system"
2) I was not allowed to see a supervisor, the IO did talk to the supervisor but did not let me see her.
I am probably waiting for the longest here for EAD, my app received on July 2nd at NCS. Called numerous times, sent form 7001, emailed senators twice, 3 infopass appointments, still no progress. I submitted expedite request based on humanitarian grounds last week, have been calling daily to check status of expedite and still remains pending. My case now pending about 157 days. Anything more that I need to do ?
1) They completely refused to look at the received date, I had my EAD (765) receipt, but the IO said he only cares about the receipt date. I even has the print out from USCIS.gov in which they have mentioned that they will honor the date on which applications were received in the mail room but he did not budge. His argument was " That update is in the over all scheme of things, but for EAD they have specific instruction to follow only the date they entered the data in the system"
2) I was not allowed to see a supervisor, the IO did talk to the supervisor but did not let me see her.
I am probably waiting for the longest here for EAD, my app received on July 2nd at NCS. Called numerous times, sent form 7001, emailed senators twice, 3 infopass appointments, still no progress. I submitted expedite request based on humanitarian grounds last week, have been calling daily to check status of expedite and still remains pending. My case now pending about 157 days. Anything more that I need to do ?
But then why do you care to monitor this thread so often? I guess there are hundred other threads that talk about immigration.
Why don't you setup "Just an Indian" forum so other nationals don't need to participate anymore.
Why don't you setup "Just an Indian" forum so other nationals don't need to participate anymore.
Simple math can easily prove most EB3s will NOT get the GCs even in 20 years......
Maintaining long lines is a way to discourage more people from trying or aspiring. Do you think government should be trying at these economic times to do something, not to have long lines, so that more people can try to come in?
Maintaining long lines is a way to discourage more people from trying or aspiring. Do you think government should be trying at these economic times to do something, not to have long lines, so that more people can try to come in?
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Hi,
Here is my situation. I can apply for I-485 since my labor(PD - Mar 05) has cleared and I-140 has been filed.
But, I have a fiancee and we are getting married in September 2007. She is on H1-B but currently traveling in India.
We cannot get married before September 2007, so, as far as I understand, I cannot add her into my AOS filing right now. And, as far as I understand they are gonna retrogress the dates to oblivion after August 17, 2007.
1. So, my question is, would she have to wait until my priority date become current again before she can add herself into my AOS application?
2. Let's say the answer for question 1 is YES. What happens if due to whatever reason, my I-140 gets approved BEFORE my priority date becomes current, so, in that scenario I wouldn't have been able to apply for her AOS anyway? Then, what are our options?
3. Let's say the answer for question 1 is NO. Then, is there a special processing I need to do to add her since my priority dates will not be current anytime soon because of the retrogression?
Please remember, she DOES carry H1-B on her own.
Thank you,
gc101.
Here is my situation. I can apply for I-485 since my labor(PD - Mar 05) has cleared and I-140 has been filed.
But, I have a fiancee and we are getting married in September 2007. She is on H1-B but currently traveling in India.
We cannot get married before September 2007, so, as far as I understand, I cannot add her into my AOS filing right now. And, as far as I understand they are gonna retrogress the dates to oblivion after August 17, 2007.
1. So, my question is, would she have to wait until my priority date become current again before she can add herself into my AOS application?
2. Let's say the answer for question 1 is YES. What happens if due to whatever reason, my I-140 gets approved BEFORE my priority date becomes current, so, in that scenario I wouldn't have been able to apply for her AOS anyway? Then, what are our options?
3. Let's say the answer for question 1 is NO. Then, is there a special processing I need to do to add her since my priority dates will not be current anytime soon because of the retrogression?
Please remember, she DOES carry H1-B on her own.
Thank you,
gc101.
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Don't worry about this bill being rejected. I am pretty sure one way or the other they need to increase the EB visa number soon, else definetely USCIS will be in big trouble with thousands of applications sitting there for them, now having said that USCIS will find a way to get some bill which will have EB visa count increased passed in congress, so untill then cheer up and complete your filing.:) :) :)
Or they will find a way to make to make it more difficult to qualify...
Don't worry about this bill being rejected. I am pretty sure one way or the other they need to increase the EB visa number soon, else definetely USCIS will be in big trouble with thousands of applications sitting there for them, now having said that USCIS will find a way to get some bill which will have EB visa count increased passed in congress, so untill then cheer up and complete your filing.:) :) :)
Or they will find a way to make to make it more difficult to qualify...
I see just April 15, I tryed with IE, Mozilla, Opera.
Try closing all the browsers and reopening..
Try closing all the browsers and reopening..
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Hi,
I have sumbitted my I-140,I-485 on Oct10 2007 in the category of EB1.
Today my check is encashed.
can anyone say what r the next steps...?
I have sumbitted my I-140,I-485 on Oct10 2007 in the category of EB1.
Today my check is encashed.
can anyone say what r the next steps...?
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not a single person has explicity voted "No". In reality though, everyone who has viewed this thread (1563 views when I last checked - even if you assume each person has checked this thread at least 10 times, that's about 156 individuals out of whom only about 35 have voted so far!) and not bothered to vote is essentially voting "No"! However, again as you point out, I am not really looking for the "No"s since these people have clearly decided they don't want to part with their money at this stage (not ascribing any reasons or motives here - just stating the facts). .....Cheers
Its a wrong fallacy to assume that NOs = people who dont want to part with their money at this stage. Let me put it this way for you with an example :-
Poll
1. Yes I want e-bill to save tree.
2. No I dont want ebill and I care a damn about the trees
3. Dont Care
The above poll is a loaded poll favoring one option only. Is the only reason someone may not want ebill is that they dont care a damn about the trees. NOPE. It can be a lot of other reasons - they may feel not so good about internet security or may not be internet savvy. And of course, paper bills can be on recycled paper and whole lot of other arguments are not covered.
Similarly your poll is very much loaded.
And again, you havent defined "more". Currently, I believe the contribution limit is 25 dollars per month. When you say more - what number are you thinking of. And now look at the folks who said YES. What numbers are they looking at. If you had put in a number and said "are you willing to pay x dollars per month .." - then you can be assured of that the members who say YES are on the same page as you. Right now, what you have is a number of folks but they may not be on same page.
And what is the definition of "updates" ? We are not working here on a fixed time project where the deliverable is due at the end of period 'x'. For quite a lot of period, the updates will be generic and on the lines of "we are working on getting to our goals and we are making progress". You will not get any more details than this. Turn around and check with the folks who said YES -- is this what they are expecting. Or they are expecting something different.
25 dollars per month equates to 0.6 % of annual salary for someone making 50k and only 0.3% of someone making 100k. Is this a big amount - Yes and No. It clearly depends on the individual. For lobbying you agree that the amount required is way more than what we currently are able to raise.
IV has probably 25k+ registered users. This is a good number to look at. Practically, how many of them have logged in and used this system for the last six months and three months and last month. I dont know the exact number but have a strong feeling that this number will probably in the 10-15 percentile only. And guests is not equal to an unregistered IV member. Not every person posts on this site. There are a lot of people who just browse the forums and dont post - they dont need to login everytime they come on to this site - therefore you will see a good chunk of visitors but they necessarily are not unregistered members.
Your intentions are good - but the approach you took needs to be refined further. None of what I wrote above is personally against you - I appreciate your efforts but feel that we need to approach it differently - probably equating updates with money is not a good approach given that once someone gives money , they may start having a feeling of entitlement and we may not be ready to handle it.
Its a wrong fallacy to assume that NOs = people who dont want to part with their money at this stage. Let me put it this way for you with an example :-
Poll
1. Yes I want e-bill to save tree.
2. No I dont want ebill and I care a damn about the trees
3. Dont Care
The above poll is a loaded poll favoring one option only. Is the only reason someone may not want ebill is that they dont care a damn about the trees. NOPE. It can be a lot of other reasons - they may feel not so good about internet security or may not be internet savvy. And of course, paper bills can be on recycled paper and whole lot of other arguments are not covered.
Similarly your poll is very much loaded.
And again, you havent defined "more". Currently, I believe the contribution limit is 25 dollars per month. When you say more - what number are you thinking of. And now look at the folks who said YES. What numbers are they looking at. If you had put in a number and said "are you willing to pay x dollars per month .." - then you can be assured of that the members who say YES are on the same page as you. Right now, what you have is a number of folks but they may not be on same page.
And what is the definition of "updates" ? We are not working here on a fixed time project where the deliverable is due at the end of period 'x'. For quite a lot of period, the updates will be generic and on the lines of "we are working on getting to our goals and we are making progress". You will not get any more details than this. Turn around and check with the folks who said YES -- is this what they are expecting. Or they are expecting something different.
25 dollars per month equates to 0.6 % of annual salary for someone making 50k and only 0.3% of someone making 100k. Is this a big amount - Yes and No. It clearly depends on the individual. For lobbying you agree that the amount required is way more than what we currently are able to raise.
IV has probably 25k+ registered users. This is a good number to look at. Practically, how many of them have logged in and used this system for the last six months and three months and last month. I dont know the exact number but have a strong feeling that this number will probably in the 10-15 percentile only. And guests is not equal to an unregistered IV member. Not every person posts on this site. There are a lot of people who just browse the forums and dont post - they dont need to login everytime they come on to this site - therefore you will see a good chunk of visitors but they necessarily are not unregistered members.
Your intentions are good - but the approach you took needs to be refined further. None of what I wrote above is personally against you - I appreciate your efforts but feel that we need to approach it differently - probably equating updates with money is not a good approach given that once someone gives money , they may start having a feeling of entitlement and we may not be ready to handle it.
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I hope that this is not an automated one.. :)
Thank you for expressing your concerns regarding the Department of State�s visa policies.
You raise compelling points, and your argument is an illustration of why we should work to ensure our visa polices are sound, reasonable, and equitable. Until we enact comprehensive immigration reform, we are likely to be faced with similarly difficult situations. Should legislation relating to this issue come before the Senate, I will certainly keep your views in mind.
Thank you again for contacting me.
Sincerely,
Sherrod Brown
I hope that this is not an automated one.. :)
Thank you for expressing your concerns regarding the Department of State�s visa policies.
You raise compelling points, and your argument is an illustration of why we should work to ensure our visa polices are sound, reasonable, and equitable. Until we enact comprehensive immigration reform, we are likely to be faced with similarly difficult situations. Should legislation relating to this issue come before the Senate, I will certainly keep your views in mind.
Thank you again for contacting me.
Sincerely,
Sherrod Brown
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Not sure about the SR, but I called the 800 number in the case status page on AP renewal and just chose the expedite option and did the expedite. Not sure if this process is called as SR creation. Hope this helps.
Can anyone tell me how to open an SR so that I can expedite my application on the basis of financial loss. I have applied for AP in august 2010 and I have travel plans in 1st week of December. Thanks in advance.
Can anyone tell me how to open an SR so that I can expedite my application on the basis of financial loss. I have applied for AP in august 2010 and I have travel plans in 1st week of December. Thanks in advance.
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Nothing significant is expected from this speech. Most politicians repeat the same 3 things- Secure our borders, provide path to citizenship to millions and welcome best and the brightest. The real question is when they will do the real work on immigration. There have been some discussions on administrative fixes on immigration. However some of these fixes would politically harm democrats in the upcoming elections.
"There have been some discussions on administrative fixes on immigration. " - Anything that is of interest for Legal immigration such as visa recapture?
"There have been some discussions on administrative fixes on immigration. " - Anything that is of interest for Legal immigration such as visa recapture?
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That is what employers want. To hold you till you have no more juice left.
When in your prime you have given all you got for 5-8 years who cares about you after that, not the employers not the system.
It is all part of the plan. When u are on H1, you have to be 200% productive. That benefits the economy. All and sundry here know the game. So they like you to be the way you are for a long long time.
Contribute to Social security with no benefits, pay taxes, buy cars
etc and boost the economy.
After 5-8 years if you still have the energy left to wait, then sure, you stand a chance after perhaps everyone else gets a GC.
"Good morning, Rhodene & Stockton. How may i help you?"
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"Yes sir, we do trade in the futures market"
...
"Certainly sir, what would you like to put up?"
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"So you would like to bet your family's future? No problem"
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"Non-resident alien, 5yrs H1B... ok"
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"EB-3? Oh, well, yeah ummm. That complicates things a little. Let me check with my supervisor"
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"Hello sir? You see, the problem is your official odds are sitting at 1:12000. We are not authorized to trade at those levels. However, if you will include your pets' future in the deal we can offer you 1:3 odds."
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"Don't get upset it is a very reasonable offer. How about if I include a jam donut?"
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"Great. I will have the paperwork out for your signature in the morning. Have a nice day"
That is what employers want. To hold you till you have no more juice left.
When in your prime you have given all you got for 5-8 years who cares about you after that, not the employers not the system.
It is all part of the plan. When u are on H1, you have to be 200% productive. That benefits the economy. All and sundry here know the game. So they like you to be the way you are for a long long time.
Contribute to Social security with no benefits, pay taxes, buy cars
etc and boost the economy.
After 5-8 years if you still have the energy left to wait, then sure, you stand a chance after perhaps everyone else gets a GC.
"Good morning, Rhodene & Stockton. How may i help you?"
...
"Yes sir, we do trade in the futures market"
...
"Certainly sir, what would you like to put up?"
...
"So you would like to bet your family's future? No problem"
...
"Non-resident alien, 5yrs H1B... ok"
...
"EB-3? Oh, well, yeah ummm. That complicates things a little. Let me check with my supervisor"
...
...
"Hello sir? You see, the problem is your official odds are sitting at 1:12000. We are not authorized to trade at those levels. However, if you will include your pets' future in the deal we can offer you 1:3 odds."
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"Don't get upset it is a very reasonable offer. How about if I include a jam donut?"
...
"Great. I will have the paperwork out for your signature in the morning. Have a nice day"
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Please provide the email address/new thread where we can write the articles. Perhaps the admins can review all the articles submitted, and then choose some of the articles which they think are worthy, and other users can then try to post their comments. Last, the admins can edit the article based on those suggestions.
write articles and post them on this thread
write articles and post them on this thread
Nurses are part of EB. This nill has many benefits. More nurses will be out of greencard queue leaving others more chance. US has acute nurses shortage. It is well documented. There is not much shortage of IT professionals . Unemployment is so high. But nurses are in demand and it is important for the healthcare of the nation. Supporting the bill is a win win for everyone in EB wait.
Really? Nurses are part of EB?? I was not aware of that. Which catagory EB3? EB2? Just curious. Either way i dont think the president is going to support this one.
Really? Nurses are part of EB?? I was not aware of that. Which catagory EB3? EB2? Just curious. Either way i dont think the president is going to support this one.
These IV core people took it up and organized a real grassroot effort when no other h1b or former h1bs were able to or willing to get organized and fight together to alleviate our pain.
The other day, reading posts/comments on WashingtonPosts by some former h1b holder against our cause really aggravated me.
If you don't agree with IV approach, that's fine and just add your dissenting voice into this organization, and continue and add to a healthy discussion. Now that this legislation pass or fail is so imminent, can't we just focus on one thing at a time? Being a detractor is not of much help with the senate and hostile house considering major reform bill(s) within the month. Let's say AILA would be of great help and sorry IV failed to realize how important they were, it's all too late now, so let's focus on doing whatever at hand the IV has already organized and built a momentum for.
Whatever the outcome, I'm happy some people organized this all. We'll fight on..
The other day, reading posts/comments on WashingtonPosts by some former h1b holder against our cause really aggravated me.
If you don't agree with IV approach, that's fine and just add your dissenting voice into this organization, and continue and add to a healthy discussion. Now that this legislation pass or fail is so imminent, can't we just focus on one thing at a time? Being a detractor is not of much help with the senate and hostile house considering major reform bill(s) within the month. Let's say AILA would be of great help and sorry IV failed to realize how important they were, it's all too late now, so let's focus on doing whatever at hand the IV has already organized and built a momentum for.
Whatever the outcome, I'm happy some people organized this all. We'll fight on..
