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  • even if IOs dont know and even if they reject it, we can at least enforce it through MTR, courts etc if they ever walk into this grey area and actually decide to deny the case based on non-intent to undertake permanent employment... right?

    this is great...

    so does this Q8 and the response mean that the intent of continuing with full time employment applies at the time of applying for I-140 and not at the time of adjudication?????? if that is the case, it will be GREAT!!!! hip hip hurray.. then i really dont need a green card... in a way at least...

    Do you believe IOs understand any of these complex rules? Few days before someone posted that at the time of final GC interview IO even didn't know at all about July fiasco!





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  • If we don't stand up for ourselves, no one will do it for us. Mexico continued its advance in today's bulletin but there are just too many people in the queue to get this solved the right way.
    My esteemed colleagues from India and China, if I am worried enough to donate and register for the April event, WHY HAVENT YOU?

    Register now or donate to help fund the event. This is our chance. Those $50 you will spend on dinner and a movie this weekend can help us solve this once and for all.





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  • Any one has info on working and living in Australia.

    I see in 12 months i can get Immigrant Visa... Cost is $1960 ..

    Canada may be cold ..Australia has beautiful weather ..

    But the cost to buy Australia would be slightly more expensive than for a small out of the way nation in Africa. (Anyway I am ROW from somewhere in Africa so it would be better to just go home)





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  • why dont you go back to home and live with them. keep visiting US to maintain your GC,.

    I heard famous indian crab stroy....are you that crab.

    Please be positive. Please support our request.

    US is a great country. Always value human values more than any other country.

    I love US. That is why i am here.





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  • I support this idea most.
    I agreee with the spirit of things - that multiple ways of expressing anguish, disgust, frustration is required.

    While we have to keep generating funds and doing the lobbying, the frustration of the members must be "used".

    Here is my suggestion (and this was mentioned by someone earlier also) - let's send the criss-crossed and blackened photocopies of our degrees, patents, publications etc. to the congress and other authorities as a symbol of how useless these are becoming as we wait for GCs. We can coordinate the event such that everyone's reaches at around the same time.

    Again, all I am saying is that we can do multiple things to gain attention and make our point, and these can happen simultaneously with the other activities ongoing at the State chapter level.





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  • to everyone from India (it does not matter which region, which religion etc). It is a festival of lights and everyone in India celebrates it.





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  • I would strongly suggest, people refrain from using words like injustice, etc., Injustice implies the US govt is doing something wrong, when they are not. Such accusations do not reflect well on us and are unlikely to benefit in any meaningful way.

    Desis are impacted because we are just so many of us. No other reason. Keep in mind that we are still walking away with the bulk of green cards each year, far above the stipulated Quota.

    The Green card system exists for the benefit of America. It will not be tailored to meet the individual needs of overpopulated countries. All we can do is request them to improve the system and make it easier for applicants. Taking the aggressive approach of accusations, demanding for change, asking for more, etc., will not work.
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    Agree with you! I faintly remember a reputed attorney filing a suit against INS a couple of years back against protracted GC on behalf of the GC community. It was rejected outright.





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  • Politicians always want to keep issues alive! If issues go away, there is nothing to fight, nothing to talk in the elections; without issues you cannot get "bulk" support from any specific group! So, the so called CIR will remain a "perpetual carrot". It will never happen in our life time.

    We are all mature, educated people from a highly politically conscious environment! So...we are not naive, I am sure!

    I take this opportunity to summarize a few things which have happened in the context of "long term indentured" labourers like us:

    1. Quantum jump in terms of H1 ---> about 8 / 9 years back [happened because of pressure from corporations and their lobbies, nothing to with us. they wanted cheap labour and more profits!]

    2. "Free for all" L1s ---> There is no cap, no specialty skill requirement. Not even sure if this has a min wage like H1. Why? Only because it serves the interests of the corporations to import 80% of the work force in any project!

    3. Yearly H1 extensions based on Labour approvals / 3 year extensions for I 140 cases ---> When the "slaves" started returning after 6 years (without GCs being approved) the corporations growled and again the lobbies worked day and night. This has nothing to do with our pleading!

    4. AC 21 ---> This is a good feature with a humane angle, but again there is NO WRITTEN MEMO permitting the employees to switch jobs 6 months after receving their EADs! This has been clearly articulated in a new item by Murthy.com! So AC21 is NOT a fool proof mechanism!
    If the employer withdraws his I 140 there is a fair chance that 485 might be denied. (as per Murthy.com, there are a number of cases where such denials have happened). Again INS will never issue a memo, because it will antagonize the corporations

    5. EAD / AP merger ---> this is a minor change in procedure, an admin fix! This is not a policy change. Full credit to several immigration forums and pleadings. However, this is not going to help many of us as our AP / EAD dates vary by several weeks and we might not be able to file them together

    So, after 10 + years pleading, we have been able to get an admin fix :) That is amazing!!! Under the circumstances we cannot even dream of any legislative support or correction! Instead of Chinese / Indians in the endless line had citizens of the EU nations been affected, everything would have been fixed ages back!

    Everyone is interested in the illegals and their "hard working" school children! That is because of the money, muscle, vote power they wield! Even if they were to have 1% of the law on their side, they would have achieved their objective ages back! They are holding us hostage because we have 100% of the law on our side and they have 0% of the law on their side. Otherwise, why should we law abiding immigrants be grouped with people who jumped fence?

    Think...does this make sense at all? Correct me if I am wrong! I will accept my mistakes with all humility!

    How is the CIR even relevant in our case? Did we do anythng illegal????

    What are we all waiting for? ~ ~ ~

    Honestly, NOTHING but the WILL of the SUPREME POWER can help us !!! (more than 99% of the population are believers, anyway)

    Youngsters in the early to mid 30s with "non US citizen kids" please think seriously. Do not waste your time in this mess for decades. We have all suffered for 10 - 12 years now and have no options. If you cross the age of 40 then you cannot immigrate to any western country because you will lose in the "points system". It would be a good option to live in countries who have a clear cut time bound program which does not discriminate on the basis of your nationality.

    When the corporations wanted you and I, H1 was increased - no one was bothered about your nationality at that time. Today when we want a future for our family and kids, people talk about quota and diversity! This is what is known as "Having the cake and eating it too"

    Remember, the system has been designed to support and ensure long term indentured labour to sustain the greedy corporations! There is no place for empathy or compassion. It is business! It is money! Free market enterprise works this way!

    If we are expecting miracles, we are chasing a mirage!!!

    May the SUPREME POWER bless the EB2 / EB3 communities and give them the strength, resilience and the patience they badly need!!!





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  • To make an impact, we need in the order of 50,000 to 100,000 letters with their personal US address on it. Anything less doesn't hold any water..

    From what I remember, when we wrote to President Bush, only 5000 letters were sent.
    I dont think a number like 50,000 could ever be reached.





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  • 140 & 485 filed concurrently on July 2nd.

    Not cashed yet & no reciept. :)

    -IV





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  • sending flowers did work for us.

    You mean to say sell US real estate for GC/citizenship? I don't see this going very far. I can see anti immigrants waiting for this one. Best is to lobby using aides of big corporations, developing relationship with lobbyists who already have connections, hiring lawyers, developing strong case, donations in election campaigns etc. All of this needs loads and loads of money. Are we ready to donate to IV and build strong lobbying group for our cause? That is the only way to change our current situation.

    Sending flowers, sending pizzas, sending all these proposals will only fall on deaf years. Congress understands language of money to pass laws, Rest of the country/orgranizations understand language of laws/court.





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  • I vote for Blood Drive. I have donated blood two times in the US no issues.





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  • The hearing is scheduled for next wednesday..

    http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearings/hearing.cfm?id=3876


    Sorry to spoil the party guys..but it seems this hearing is for
    S 424 - Uniting American Families Act of 2009

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c111:1:./temp/~c111NlehB4::

    and not S.1085 Reuniting Families Act ...

    I hope someone proves me wrong.... :mad::confused:





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  • Immigration Voice Advocacy Days in Washington DC: 7th & 8th June, Announcement:2010

    With the continued success of the high skilled community to create more awareness for Employment Based green card backlogs, Immigration Voice will hold Advocacy Days, Press Conference and Congressional Reception in Washington DC on 7th June & 8th June.
    Every member must participate in these Advocacy Days events in DC. Congress will be back from Memorial Day recess in early June and there will be a fresh look at the Comprehensive Immigration Reform, which includes high-skills immigration.

    After having favorable consequences from our past effort, it is now time to have a bigger event in the front-yard of Congress in Washington DC, so that the long ignored issue of visa backlogs (retrogression) is addressed. This event will be hugely consequential as it will help our issues get much more coverage in the media and much more attention of Congress because of 2 reasons: It will be a really big crowd and secondly, it will be in Washington DC. Immigration Voice will arrange for meetings, advocacy material, and other logistics necessary for all the events during the Advocacy Days. All you have to do is show up.

    Please plan to take two day off on 7th & 8th June to attend these events. If you do not live within the driving distance of DC, then there is ample time for you to book travel by air or by train ahead of time. 7th & 8th June is Monday & Tuesday, and if you book your travel and accommodation ahead of time (and there is plenty of time still) then you can participate with minimal expense.

    Immigration Voice wants to do something as consequential as the flower campaign and the San Jose rally but only this time, it will be much bigger and much more consequential aimed at Congressional action on immigration reform to address visa backlogs and broken system of high-skills immigration. We aim to resolve this issue but we cannot do it alone and therefore it is imperative for everyone, and by that we mean EVERY ONE to show up. If you wanted to be a part of the past events but couldn’t, then now is your chance to make your voices heard and fight for a fair system and just process.

    Always remember, we are in United States at the invitation of our employers and our employers have filed our green card petitions in order to retain us. It is only fair and only just to ask for a system that achieves that objective without delays and without putting the immigrants in probationary limbo for 6-12 years. And it is your obligation to yourself and your family to stand up for your rights and ask congress to legislate and fix the system so that it works the way it was originally intended to work. Just ask a participant of September-2007 DC rally how proud and how satisfied everyone was after the rally – not just due to impact – but just because they have stood up and spoken up for their issue.

    In the two days, we plan on having over 400 meetings with the Administration (for both Admin and Legislative fixes), Office of Senators and Representatives.

    As we are beginning to take appointments on your behalf but we need your confirmation before we setup Advocacy day meetings for you. Please fill in the online form (in less than 1 minute) to let us know about your plans. We will need this basic information to setup your meetings with the lawmakers.

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    Link to fill in the online form: ImmigrationVoice.org - Advocacy Days - 7th & 8th June, 2010 (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=98&Itemid=132)
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    As one would imagine it is extremely demanding project to setup, coordinate, plan and execute 400 meetings for members coming from all 50 States. It will very much help us if you could please let us know about your plans to attend the Advocacy Days in DC, sooner rather than later.

    Please stay tuned for more updates about other updates. In the meantime, please plan to travel with friends and family and let your friends know about this event. If you plan to carpool with local IV members, or book travel or hotel reservation in groups for group discount, please go here : Sept 18th Rally: Car-pooling, Group Reservations for Air travel, hotel etc. - Immigration Voice (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum90-sept-18th-rally-car-pooling-group-reservations-for-air-travel-hotel-etc/)

    Please take a look at the videos of some proud IV members who participated in events organized by IV like DC Rally, flower campaign and the San Jose rally.

    Link to videos:
    YouTube - immigration voice (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=immigration+voice&aq=f)


    See you in DC on 7th and 8th June!

    Team Immigration Voice





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  • AND PAY THE SAME TAXES AND SOCIAL SECURITY AS ANY AMERICAN

    I agree, I was so upset when I read it... Thank you Logiclife for bringing that to our notice.
    I just wrote an email to the editors with the email address provided by walking_dude. My email says this:

    Dear Editor

    You mention in an article dated today that "HIGH-TECH EMPLOYERS get lift from House Republican letter to Speaker Pelosi urging passage of immigration bill to help "attract and retain" high-skilled workers". And in the same breath you say that "In a poll 56% of Republicans earning more than $75,000 annually would "strongly" or "partially" agree with candidate who would bar illegal immigrants from path to citizenship." Do you know the difference between highly skilled legal immigrants and illegal immigrants?. Why do you have to imply that all highly skilled are illegal, infact 99.99% of highly skilled workers (Tech workers) came to the USA legally and continue to live legally. They are here at the behest of their employers.
    So please correct your article to reflect that.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119154966904949270.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

    An Upset highly skilled worker





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  • I find it hard to digest why would they mind if some one has been to India recently?

    Does this argument apply just for the indians or does it apply to individual of any nationality?

    THey have eradicated malaria from north america whereas we still have it in India. They dont want us immigarants or wanna be immigrants to spread diseases!!





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  • Well said... right on bulls eye.
    I regularly visit IV and to my dismay "July 2 filers - Receipt Tracking" thread stays in the top 5 updated threads throughout the DC rally planning period. Many people on this tracking thread are not seen on any other thread :confused:

    Previously those people were on VB thread ... now those people have got a promotion... those people are now on tracking thread:(


    Simmer guys - sorry to cause ripples here.

    By "those people" I mean the people that come to the forums only to either track which mail room boy signed for a package, or argue about who bad the inactivity of movement on a Priority Date movement would be.

    "Those people" are not here to contribute, they aren't here to help anyway. They aren't interested in meeting their lawmakers, or attending a rally.

    In all honesty, "those people", who are busy tracking not predicting probably don't give 2 hoots about bulletins anymore, they are content with 10 years of EAD / AP renewals but doing nothing to change that.

    Its a gross generalization, of course, but I apologize if people took that as offensive. Sometimes the truth is a little annoying.

    I was working at the rally for 4 days, and was checking the forums in my spare time still. Those tracking threads sure looked very active throughout the whole thing, despite a comparative hand full of IV members were working very hard to actually make change.





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  • I wouldn't call ourselves losers. But I do agree with your statement about Richard Attenborough and Danny Boyle, because I was thinking the same thing!

    It took a richard attenborough to show case Gandhi and it took Danny Boyle to show case Rahman's talent. as simple as that.. people who cant rejoice at this moment are sore frigging losers. end of story. :D





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    thx njdude...by consulate u meant indian consulate?





    looks like you just missed in june cutoff dates

    I actually feel lucky that being from India, I have reached this far!.... Hopefully EB2 doesn't become unavailable in the next few months .



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