One of my friend asked Shiela Murthy and she said that in order to be able to add my spouse , I would have HAD to get married before July 31st (which I couldn't anyway), because, then, only I/we will be eligible to add my spouse.
Also, I sent in the papers for my I-485 last night. Now, hoping to god that there is an RFE on this and some kind of delay.
Thank you,
gc101.
double-check that note from Sheela Murthy (take an appointment with either her, or Rajiv Khanna). You have to get married before your 485 is approved, dont know whats that July 31st date. Good thing you filed your 485 atleast. You can add your spouse only when your PD is current, but you can atleast use AC21 in the meantime (for changing employers etc).
http://www.murthy.com/news/UDmar485.html
To summarize the INS position, as long as the principal applicant gets married prior to the INS' approving the I-485 application, there should be no problem for the dependent/s to either file the Adjustment of Status, if in the U.S., or to "follow to join," based upon a consular interview abroad. Therefore, the principal can file the Adjustment of Status application prior to marriage, but the marriage needs to take place before INS makes its decision on the I-485 application.
Also, I sent in the papers for my I-485 last night. Now, hoping to god that there is an RFE on this and some kind of delay.
Thank you,
gc101.
double-check that note from Sheela Murthy (take an appointment with either her, or Rajiv Khanna). You have to get married before your 485 is approved, dont know whats that July 31st date. Good thing you filed your 485 atleast. You can add your spouse only when your PD is current, but you can atleast use AC21 in the meantime (for changing employers etc).
http://www.murthy.com/news/UDmar485.html
To summarize the INS position, as long as the principal applicant gets married prior to the INS' approving the I-485 application, there should be no problem for the dependent/s to either file the Adjustment of Status, if in the U.S., or to "follow to join," based upon a consular interview abroad. Therefore, the principal can file the Adjustment of Status application prior to marriage, but the marriage needs to take place before INS makes its decision on the I-485 application.
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I thank every one on this forum for taking initiative and fighting for common goal.
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Sorry guys, I found how to contribute, i am mailing my check of $100 today, I appreciate all your effort, I hope we should win finally.
I thank every one on this forum for taking initiative and fighting for common goal.
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Guys,
I think all of us EB2 ( including yours truly) are guilty of too much analysis paralysis of EB2 visa no.s for the remainfer of FY 08. With today's post by a lawyer on DOS communication to USCIS to stop allocating visa numbers to India/China till OCT 1 , 08, it is clear that USCIS will never get its act straight unless we are completely united and press on for a major drive to senators to pass the visa recapture bill ( regardless of EB2 and EB3) . So let us start flooding the senators inbox, voicemail and email with letters urging them to pass the recapture bill. To that extent I request all of you double your efforts. The next session of senate, which starts next month, is a short session and we should act NOW. otherwise nothing will happen until late next year.
I think all of us EB2 ( including yours truly) are guilty of too much analysis paralysis of EB2 visa no.s for the remainfer of FY 08. With today's post by a lawyer on DOS communication to USCIS to stop allocating visa numbers to India/China till OCT 1 , 08, it is clear that USCIS will never get its act straight unless we are completely united and press on for a major drive to senators to pass the visa recapture bill ( regardless of EB2 and EB3) . So let us start flooding the senators inbox, voicemail and email with letters urging them to pass the recapture bill. To that extent I request all of you double your efforts. The next session of senate, which starts next month, is a short session and we should act NOW. otherwise nothing will happen until late next year.
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"Retrogression" is the word for the rest of the year for EB3 (I). Learn it, Leave it (eat it, sleep it, drink it - whichever way you want it).
How about Dec. 2000 EB3-I for incoming bulletin? Then "Retrogression at will" as we move forward for the rest of the year. Now don't ask me how because anything is possible with (fill in the blanks).
How about Dec. 2000 EB3-I for incoming bulletin? Then "Retrogression at will" as we move forward for the rest of the year. Now don't ask me how because anything is possible with (fill in the blanks).
1) should I invoke Ac 21 ??-- I am worried that the EVL may not meet USCIS needs as it may not be fully detailed
2) The other option I have is to take a leave of absence from my present company for one year and start working for the new company? IN this case what happens if I get RFE for EVL ? Which company should I say I am working for present or the future ? Also If I do take a leave of absence should I send in AC 21 paperwork or no?
PLEASE HELP I am very confused--- I strongly feel that the leave of absence might be an insurance policy but I don't know how to approach it !!
There is no such thing as "invoking" AC21. Its a law. Most important thing is, your I-140 must have been approved and I-485 is pending for more then 180 days....you are Free to sail in the same or similar field.
Forget about option 2.
2) The other option I have is to take a leave of absence from my present company for one year and start working for the new company? IN this case what happens if I get RFE for EVL ? Which company should I say I am working for present or the future ? Also If I do take a leave of absence should I send in AC 21 paperwork or no?
PLEASE HELP I am very confused--- I strongly feel that the leave of absence might be an insurance policy but I don't know how to approach it !!
There is no such thing as "invoking" AC21. Its a law. Most important thing is, your I-140 must have been approved and I-485 is pending for more then 180 days....you are Free to sail in the same or similar field.
Forget about option 2.
Now, lets think whats that thing proving our legality..
I797 (H1 Petition)
Lets make a template of it (it should be the same color and pattern but with different font) and remove all the vital information. (name, ssn etc.. ) and make a generic one. Lets download .. sign it by many and send it to them and Print it there on BOLD "Change our status and give us our residency soon"...
this way we prove that we are LEGALS and we will create publicity
I797 (H1 Petition)
Lets make a template of it (it should be the same color and pattern but with different font) and remove all the vital information. (name, ssn etc.. ) and make a generic one. Lets download .. sign it by many and send it to them and Print it there on BOLD "Change our status and give us our residency soon"...
this way we prove that we are LEGALS and we will create publicity
well there will always be certain exceptions everywhere....Michael Aytes did mention it publicly when he testified before congress in his document below
http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/I...as_30Apr08.pdf
he does mention that all these applications will be pre-adjudicated just short of visa number. So officially in my opinion they will not go back to these applications unless there is an exceptional condition which makes them do it. I can safely say that broadly it's not gonna happen.
http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/I...as_30Apr08.pdf
he does mention that all these applications will be pre-adjudicated just short of visa number. So officially in my opinion they will not go back to these applications unless there is an exceptional condition which makes them do it. I can safely say that broadly it's not gonna happen.
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it is part of our culture, we all live together forever.
not a single person has explicity voted "No". In reality though, everyone who has viewed this thread (1563 views when I last checked - even if you assume each person has checked this thread at least 10 times, that's about 156 individuals out of whom only about 35 have voted so far!) and not bothered to vote is essentially voting "No"! However, again as you point out, I am not really looking for the "No"s since these people have clearly decided they don't want to part with their money at this stage (not ascribing any reasons or motives here - just stating the facts). .....Cheers
Its a wrong fallacy to assume that NOs = people who dont want to part with their money at this stage. Let me put it this way for you with an example :-
Poll
1. Yes I want e-bill to save tree.
2. No I dont want ebill and I care a damn about the trees
3. Dont Care
The above poll is a loaded poll favoring one option only. Is the only reason someone may not want ebill is that they dont care a damn about the trees. NOPE. It can be a lot of other reasons - they may feel not so good about internet security or may not be internet savvy. And of course, paper bills can be on recycled paper and whole lot of other arguments are not covered.
Similarly your poll is very much loaded.
And again, you havent defined "more". Currently, I believe the contribution limit is 25 dollars per month. When you say more - what number are you thinking of. And now look at the folks who said YES. What numbers are they looking at. If you had put in a number and said "are you willing to pay x dollars per month .." - then you can be assured of that the members who say YES are on the same page as you. Right now, what you have is a number of folks but they may not be on same page.
And what is the definition of "updates" ? We are not working here on a fixed time project where the deliverable is due at the end of period 'x'. For quite a lot of period, the updates will be generic and on the lines of "we are working on getting to our goals and we are making progress". You will not get any more details than this. Turn around and check with the folks who said YES -- is this what they are expecting. Or they are expecting something different.
25 dollars per month equates to 0.6 % of annual salary for someone making 50k and only 0.3% of someone making 100k. Is this a big amount - Yes and No. It clearly depends on the individual. For lobbying you agree that the amount required is way more than what we currently are able to raise.
IV has probably 25k+ registered users. This is a good number to look at. Practically, how many of them have logged in and used this system for the last six months and three months and last month. I dont know the exact number but have a strong feeling that this number will probably in the 10-15 percentile only. And guests is not equal to an unregistered IV member. Not every person posts on this site. There are a lot of people who just browse the forums and dont post - they dont need to login everytime they come on to this site - therefore you will see a good chunk of visitors but they necessarily are not unregistered members.
Your intentions are good - but the approach you took needs to be refined further. None of what I wrote above is personally against you - I appreciate your efforts but feel that we need to approach it differently - probably equating updates with money is not a good approach given that once someone gives money , they may start having a feeling of entitlement and we may not be ready to handle it.
Its a wrong fallacy to assume that NOs = people who dont want to part with their money at this stage. Let me put it this way for you with an example :-
Poll
1. Yes I want e-bill to save tree.
2. No I dont want ebill and I care a damn about the trees
3. Dont Care
The above poll is a loaded poll favoring one option only. Is the only reason someone may not want ebill is that they dont care a damn about the trees. NOPE. It can be a lot of other reasons - they may feel not so good about internet security or may not be internet savvy. And of course, paper bills can be on recycled paper and whole lot of other arguments are not covered.
Similarly your poll is very much loaded.
And again, you havent defined "more". Currently, I believe the contribution limit is 25 dollars per month. When you say more - what number are you thinking of. And now look at the folks who said YES. What numbers are they looking at. If you had put in a number and said "are you willing to pay x dollars per month .." - then you can be assured of that the members who say YES are on the same page as you. Right now, what you have is a number of folks but they may not be on same page.
And what is the definition of "updates" ? We are not working here on a fixed time project where the deliverable is due at the end of period 'x'. For quite a lot of period, the updates will be generic and on the lines of "we are working on getting to our goals and we are making progress". You will not get any more details than this. Turn around and check with the folks who said YES -- is this what they are expecting. Or they are expecting something different.
25 dollars per month equates to 0.6 % of annual salary for someone making 50k and only 0.3% of someone making 100k. Is this a big amount - Yes and No. It clearly depends on the individual. For lobbying you agree that the amount required is way more than what we currently are able to raise.
IV has probably 25k+ registered users. This is a good number to look at. Practically, how many of them have logged in and used this system for the last six months and three months and last month. I dont know the exact number but have a strong feeling that this number will probably in the 10-15 percentile only. And guests is not equal to an unregistered IV member. Not every person posts on this site. There are a lot of people who just browse the forums and dont post - they dont need to login everytime they come on to this site - therefore you will see a good chunk of visitors but they necessarily are not unregistered members.
Your intentions are good - but the approach you took needs to be refined further. None of what I wrote above is personally against you - I appreciate your efforts but feel that we need to approach it differently - probably equating updates with money is not a good approach given that once someone gives money , they may start having a feeling of entitlement and we may not be ready to handle it.
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Recently I returned after a one month trip to India. At DC airport the CBP secondary inspection officer grilled us rough. First he called my wife and asked why did we leave US. She told that since my parents are old and not in good health we visited them. Then he started asking for documents proving it. And told us that without documents he won't let us enter. He went on to say that AP is only on humanitarian basis and unless CBP officer is satisfied with proof they cannot allow AP holder to enter. Finally after convincing him for another 30 min he let us in.
This was a really shocking experience. Are employment based GC's AP supposed to be treated like humanitarian AP? or was the CBP officer over reacting? Gurus please throw some light.
DSLStart, I am very sorry to hear your plight at the POE. I can exactly feel how bad and helpless we feel in that kind of situation. Glad you made it out of that situation...I just can make you feel better, I hope.
This was a really shocking experience. Are employment based GC's AP supposed to be treated like humanitarian AP? or was the CBP officer over reacting? Gurus please throw some light.
DSLStart, I am very sorry to hear your plight at the POE. I can exactly feel how bad and helpless we feel in that kind of situation. Glad you made it out of that situation...I just can make you feel better, I hope.
My RD at NSC was 07/02/07 and my EAD status changed to "production ordered" just 5 days back(still dont know when I will get it). I think NSC is taking upto 5 months from RD to process the EADs.
Hi GCseeker,
Did you get your EAD?
My wife's EAD status changed to "card production ordered", 1 week back. Nothing yet in mail.
Hi GCseeker,
Did you get your EAD?
My wife's EAD status changed to "card production ordered", 1 week back. Nothing yet in mail.
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As of May 2007, USCIS reported a staggering 329,160 FBI name check cases pending, with approximately 64 percent (211,341) of those cases pending more than 90 days and approximately 32 percent (106,738) pending more than one year.
While the percentages of long-pending cases compared to last year are similar, the absolute numbers have increased. There are now 93,358 more cases pending the name check than last year. Perhaps most disturbing, there are 31,144 FBI name check cases pending more than 33 months as compared to 21,570 last year � over a 44 percent increase in the number of cases pending more than 33 months. (page 37)
The backlog appears likely to get worse, because a USCIS fee increase -- slated to take effect in July -- has prompted a 50 percent rise in new naturalization applications so far this year. If a new immigration bill is enacted, millions of undocumented immigrants would also apply for legalization. (Washington Post (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=85213&postcount=365))
Currently, USCIS has limited capability to produce reports detailing the status of long-pending FBI name check cases. In addition, USCIS systems do not automatically indicate when a delayed name check is complete and the case can be adjudicated. Often, this leads to a situation where the validity of other checks expire before USCIS reviews the case. Those other checks then need to be reinitiated, adding financial and time costs for applicants and USCIS. The Ombudsman fully supports the expeditious rollout of the BCS system. (page 43)
the bureau since 2001 has intensified the scrutiny of immigrants with high-technology backgrounds. (Washington Post (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=85213&postcount=365))
While the percentages of long-pending cases compared to last year are similar, the absolute numbers have increased. There are now 93,358 more cases pending the name check than last year. Perhaps most disturbing, there are 31,144 FBI name check cases pending more than 33 months as compared to 21,570 last year � over a 44 percent increase in the number of cases pending more than 33 months. (page 37)
The backlog appears likely to get worse, because a USCIS fee increase -- slated to take effect in July -- has prompted a 50 percent rise in new naturalization applications so far this year. If a new immigration bill is enacted, millions of undocumented immigrants would also apply for legalization. (Washington Post (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=85213&postcount=365))
Currently, USCIS has limited capability to produce reports detailing the status of long-pending FBI name check cases. In addition, USCIS systems do not automatically indicate when a delayed name check is complete and the case can be adjudicated. Often, this leads to a situation where the validity of other checks expire before USCIS reviews the case. Those other checks then need to be reinitiated, adding financial and time costs for applicants and USCIS. The Ombudsman fully supports the expeditious rollout of the BCS system. (page 43)
the bureau since 2001 has intensified the scrutiny of immigrants with high-technology backgrounds. (Washington Post (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=85213&postcount=365))
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i140 got approved on Sep 2007
Fingerprint Sep 2007
I have seen applicants from Bangladesh frequently getting 2 - 3 month
approvals.
i140 got approved on Sep 2007
Fingerprint Sep 2007
I have seen applicants from Bangladesh frequently getting 2 - 3 month
approvals.
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If you could send checks instead of paypal, it would help us save transaction fees. Every penny counts. We are getting about $1000 a day on weekdays and as high as it may sound, its not the best we would wish as Sam Alito's confirmation gets the senate closer to other items on agenda one of which is Comp Immigration bill.
Call you other H1b friends waiting in line for GC and ask them to contribute after you are done contributing.
--logiclife.
Call you other H1b friends waiting in line for GC and ask them to contribute after you are done contributing.
--logiclife.
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Please do not misinterpret IV.
If tomorrow there is a bill to stop all H1B from coming to USA or to make life difficult for H1B, do you really think we will keep quiet just because we have filed our greencards?
Do you know IV worked hard for decoupling of H4 time from H1 in 2006 and we thought nothing may happen and started to focus on next action item. Then few months later it was changed. That was the first small step.
I would appreciate if you ask your spouse if she/he can volunteer time for IV. You both can get more involved. Send us an email if you are interested. We are always interested in people who can volunteer more time than us (We do full time jobs too. A couple of us also are enrolled in a part time degree program). We are willing to have such an H4 be a leader in IV.
IV is a platform that will allow you voice your plight. But you will need to come forward and be willing to actively work on it with others. If the strategy is right, you are committed and have right intentions there is no reason why IV will not help.
Thanks .
If tomorrow there is a bill to stop all H1B from coming to USA or to make life difficult for H1B, do you really think we will keep quiet just because we have filed our greencards?
Do you know IV worked hard for decoupling of H4 time from H1 in 2006 and we thought nothing may happen and started to focus on next action item. Then few months later it was changed. That was the first small step.
I would appreciate if you ask your spouse if she/he can volunteer time for IV. You both can get more involved. Send us an email if you are interested. We are always interested in people who can volunteer more time than us (We do full time jobs too. A couple of us also are enrolled in a part time degree program). We are willing to have such an H4 be a leader in IV.
IV is a platform that will allow you voice your plight. But you will need to come forward and be willing to actively work on it with others. If the strategy is right, you are committed and have right intentions there is no reason why IV will not help.
Thanks .
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The idea was to make it easy for majority folks who work in Manhattan and surrounding areas. We were also concerned that the tri state folks travel long distances and work long hours during weekdays will need the weekends for themselves and a Friday night after work must be the best time.
But, yes, based on majority of the folks's response, we plan to do one more on a Saturday, but not in Flushing, location will be decided soon.
ok. i live in queens and work in CT. manhattan on weekdays does not fly for me. if anyone wants to meet in the hindu center on holly av. on sunday evenings please let me know.
if nothing else, maybe prayer will work.
"ab dawa nahin dua ki zaroorat hai".:rolleyes:
But, yes, based on majority of the folks's response, we plan to do one more on a Saturday, but not in Flushing, location will be decided soon.
ok. i live in queens and work in CT. manhattan on weekdays does not fly for me. if anyone wants to meet in the hindu center on holly av. on sunday evenings please let me know.
if nothing else, maybe prayer will work.
"ab dawa nahin dua ki zaroorat hai".:rolleyes:
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some time back when I had called I was told it was assigned to an officer (PD not current though). What does that mean?
I never had any RFE, but my case has been bounced around for no reason. From TSC->CSC->TSC and I am told that it is not even pre-adjudicated not even assigned to any officer as yet. I have yet to see any more illogical organization other than USCIS. :mad:
I never had any RFE, but my case has been bounced around for no reason. From TSC->CSC->TSC and I am told that it is not even pre-adjudicated not even assigned to any officer as yet. I have yet to see any more illogical organization other than USCIS. :mad:
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- Labor was filed with a minimum requirement as Masters degree. No alternate degree requirement or equivalency was mentioned. --> just found out that it did say BS+ 5 exp is ok - USCIS mistakenly approved the I-140 (I am assuming OP does not have a US Masters and only has masters equivalent or BS + 5 yrs)
- Sponsoring employer revoked approved I-140
- USCIS checked the I-140 and realized it made a mistake in initial I-140 approval
- USCIS denied the pending I-485 based on incorrect I-140 approval
If all of the above is correct, then I doubt if anything can be done. I dont see any grounds to file MTR based on the fact that beneficiary does not have a US Masters degree which is the requirement as indicated in LC filing. I dont think you can do anything with respect to USCIS's mistake in approving I-140 earlier and now denying it. Got to wait and see what the attorney's view is in this regard.
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Since the application do say BS+5 years and I have copy of the Edu evaluation which says Master equivalent , I do see a good chance now to re-open the case .
Mine is not a labor substitute. ( just to clarify)
Thanks
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That one phrase in your LC requirement could turn out to be a life saver for you. Can you further clarify the educational/experience requirements mentioned in LC. Was it Masters or equivalent with zero experience OR Bachelors with 5 yrs of progressive experience? Your educational evaluation should meet atleast one of the requirements mentioned in the LC. Either Masters or Bachelors + 5 yrs exp. I think for your educational background (non 4 yr BS degree), I feel more comfortable with getting the evaluation done to satisfy the BS + 5 yrs requirement rather than going for Masters equivalent. NSC is known to be strict w.r.t 3 yr BS degree when it comes to EB-2 cases. However, since your initial evaluation showed you as holding a masters equivalent, I am not sure if its a good idea now to try to defend your case with BS + 5 yrs equivalence. A good attorney would be able to guide you through with this. I also suggest you to consult any reputed attorney regarding this and get feedback on your company attorney's plans and not just blindly follow what your company attorney says.
- Labor was filed with a minimum requirement as Masters degree. No alternate degree requirement or equivalency was mentioned. --> just found out that it did say BS+ 5 exp is ok - USCIS mistakenly approved the I-140 (I am assuming OP does not have a US Masters and only has masters equivalent or BS + 5 yrs)
- Sponsoring employer revoked approved I-140
- USCIS checked the I-140 and realized it made a mistake in initial I-140 approval
- USCIS denied the pending I-485 based on incorrect I-140 approval
If all of the above is correct, then I doubt if anything can be done. I dont see any grounds to file MTR based on the fact that beneficiary does not have a US Masters degree which is the requirement as indicated in LC filing. I dont think you can do anything with respect to USCIS's mistake in approving I-140 earlier and now denying it. Got to wait and see what the attorney's view is in this regard.
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Since the application do say BS+5 years and I have copy of the Edu evaluation which says Master equivalent , I do see a good chance now to re-open the case .
Mine is not a labor substitute. ( just to clarify)
Thanks
-vinod
That one phrase in your LC requirement could turn out to be a life saver for you. Can you further clarify the educational/experience requirements mentioned in LC. Was it Masters or equivalent with zero experience OR Bachelors with 5 yrs of progressive experience? Your educational evaluation should meet atleast one of the requirements mentioned in the LC. Either Masters or Bachelors + 5 yrs exp. I think for your educational background (non 4 yr BS degree), I feel more comfortable with getting the evaluation done to satisfy the BS + 5 yrs requirement rather than going for Masters equivalent. NSC is known to be strict w.r.t 3 yr BS degree when it comes to EB-2 cases. However, since your initial evaluation showed you as holding a masters equivalent, I am not sure if its a good idea now to try to defend your case with BS + 5 yrs equivalence. A good attorney would be able to guide you through with this. I also suggest you to consult any reputed attorney regarding this and get feedback on your company attorney's plans and not just blindly follow what your company attorney says.
If point sysem is introduced the big losers are immigration lawyers as they cannot make money in multiple stages. So no wonder if they oppose. Of course there is some limitations but its sucess depends on rules and regulations. Also there is going to be a Cap and there is going to be a provision to prevent displacement of US workers as the worldwide demand is always here. But main advantage is it will bring down the work load of various agencies like DOL and INS also employers.
the reason why we will not find justice is that our suffering is creating profits for the people with power and who vote.
your freedom is reduction in their profits. exactly the slave-master thinking. they will try their best to delay your freedom.
at my last employer (a large, respectable financial firm), they kept saying "GC next year" till they said "GC last months of 5th year". I was just a few months from that time, but i quit them in disgust anyway. doing GC with them would have meant another 5-6 years with those creeps.
this is classic zero-sum thinking. you'll see it everywhere in the US. you just have to be sharper at seeing politics. only you can protect your interests.
my advice to IV is to associate with some labour union. those guys are corrupt, but at least they have some power.
the reason why we will not find justice is that our suffering is creating profits for the people with power and who vote.
your freedom is reduction in their profits. exactly the slave-master thinking. they will try their best to delay your freedom.
at my last employer (a large, respectable financial firm), they kept saying "GC next year" till they said "GC last months of 5th year". I was just a few months from that time, but i quit them in disgust anyway. doing GC with them would have meant another 5-6 years with those creeps.
this is classic zero-sum thinking. you'll see it everywhere in the US. you just have to be sharper at seeing politics. only you can protect your interests.
my advice to IV is to associate with some labour union. those guys are corrupt, but at least they have some power.
I went thru TSC-EAC-TSC cycle. I did quite a bit of research online :) and found they did approve those cases, if PD is current. So, that shouldnt be a hurdle. Key is make sure you have all the checks are passed and current.
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