
The flower campaign is working, read english_august's post.
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Theoratically what you say is correct. Once the revised bulletin came out people are not supposed to file / send out mails in this matter. However, what the AILF is going to fight is the "revised bulletin". They are going to fight that uscis cannot publish a revised bulletin at such a short notice and if they (AILF) wins, this revised bulletin is nullified and July will become open to every one with LC, right??
Not quite but your first part was right. AILF is focussing on the revised bulletin but from immigration-law and AILF documents it seems they are focussing on getting some visa number for July. Opening it for all will not going to work and judge will not allow. But it's too early to interpret. Please hold on before AILF clarifies or file the lawsuit.
If IV core has some information, please share with us.
Not quite but your first part was right. AILF is focussing on the revised bulletin but from immigration-law and AILF documents it seems they are focussing on getting some visa number for July. Opening it for all will not going to work and judge will not allow. But it's too early to interpret. Please hold on before AILF clarifies or file the lawsuit.
If IV core has some information, please share with us.

This is all time low for "Highly Skilled" "Highly talented" "High INCOME" group. For the issue that affects our life the most, we are asking IV core if we could still drop to $10/month or $1/month, realizing well that we are up against well oiled and very well funded machinery of anti-immigrants. WOW!!! Is there a competition going on as to how low this community can go?
This issue affects our personal life, family life, professional life, careers, professional life of our spouses, development of our growing children and still we cannot even come up with $20/month. After reading this, not sure whether at this time I am filled with more shame or is it more anger that is bothering me. Anyways, either of the two are lowest energy levels in human behavior.
The amount of money we contribute is the measure of importance of this issue for us. Is this issue worth $20 or $10 or $1 for us? I guess the answer is NONE. This issue drives our life and we cannot come up with the necessary resources. Shame. We are expecting Amitab and Shahrukh to raise money for us when we do not want to help ourselves. Don't know if we all should cry or laugh at our behavior.
This issue affects our personal life, family life, professional life, careers, professional life of our spouses, development of our growing children and still we cannot even come up with $20/month. After reading this, not sure whether at this time I am filled with more shame or is it more anger that is bothering me. Anyways, either of the two are lowest energy levels in human behavior.
The amount of money we contribute is the measure of importance of this issue for us. Is this issue worth $20 or $10 or $1 for us? I guess the answer is NONE. This issue drives our life and we cannot come up with the necessary resources. Shame. We are expecting Amitab and Shahrukh to raise money for us when we do not want to help ourselves. Don't know if we all should cry or laugh at our behavior.
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I think is IP banned and he no longer able to access the IV.
Thats I read in his forum...
Banning IP is not a good idea. If you are sitting in a company, for all people, outside world will get the same IP.
Thats I read in his forum...
Banning IP is not a good idea. If you are sitting in a company, for all people, outside world will get the same IP.

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As I understand, if we win the lawsuit, they will accept all 485 filed in July, no matter July 2 or 31. But they will process July 2 case first.
Based on what exactly ??
Nobody here even comes close in identifying which are the eligibility criteria. Everybody hopes for one or the other.
Meanwhile one thing is for sure:
Every application filed after July 2nd, is filed AFTER they closed the doors oficially! How are we in the same class as the people from July 2nd ??? Just because we prepared for filing ??? Isn't that a bit weak in the eyes of the law ?
As I understand, if we win the lawsuit, they will accept all 485 filed in July, no matter July 2 or 31. But they will process July 2 case first.
Based on what exactly ??
Nobody here even comes close in identifying which are the eligibility criteria. Everybody hopes for one or the other.
Meanwhile one thing is for sure:
Every application filed after July 2nd, is filed AFTER they closed the doors oficially! How are we in the same class as the people from July 2nd ??? Just because we prepared for filing ??? Isn't that a bit weak in the eyes of the law ?

Lawsuit update:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=98605#post98605
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=98605#post98605

msgs like this help establish the notion that this is an indian website dedicated to indian immigration issues. I didnt see any post wishing happy Eid/ Eid Mubarak nor did I notice last year that anyone wished a Merry Christmas/ Happy Holidays, nor do we wish our Chinese friends a Happy Chinese New Year.
The people who wants to be a part of American Society should first definately be a very open minded towards all cultures and social trends.
Other thing to be Indian or representing Indian traditions is not a crime but certainly every time barking against anything Indian may certainly be a crime as it is a clear indication of closed door or prejudicial mind towards one particular country and culture. Americans do not mind if one shows that he is Indian now and want to become in American future. Although they prefer that AND that is why they label Jindal as Indian-American although he born in USA. If there are majority Indians on IV board, it is not a crime but it is obvious. Some of my chienese friends on IV board may start thread for wishing chienese festival, I bet most Indians on this board will welcome and same goes with Muslim friends on IV board. Starting and wishing EID MUBARAK thread (By the way that is also a Indian tradition..And I am proud of that too) is not a crime and by now if nobody started it does not mean other people may not welcome it. If you are a Muslim, start the thread for EID Mubarak, I will be the first to welcome that step. You want to be American,, right? Then first start learning open mind and start respecting the culture of majority IV memebers first. If you would not start that now how will you settle yourself in cultural pot of the world?
If you are an Indian citizen right now take control over your inferiority complex and get over it because if you do not respect your culture or your tradition what guaranty would be there for Americans that you would respect American traditions in future. Even Americans are not fool. And how dare you pretend that people form China and other countries just stop supporting IV as they just see few threads celebrating Indian culture? So stop this bullshit now otherwise I may have to request moderators to ban you.
By the way Happy Diwali to you and your family.
The people who wants to be a part of American Society should first definately be a very open minded towards all cultures and social trends.
Other thing to be Indian or representing Indian traditions is not a crime but certainly every time barking against anything Indian may certainly be a crime as it is a clear indication of closed door or prejudicial mind towards one particular country and culture. Americans do not mind if one shows that he is Indian now and want to become in American future. Although they prefer that AND that is why they label Jindal as Indian-American although he born in USA. If there are majority Indians on IV board, it is not a crime but it is obvious. Some of my chienese friends on IV board may start thread for wishing chienese festival, I bet most Indians on this board will welcome and same goes with Muslim friends on IV board. Starting and wishing EID MUBARAK thread (By the way that is also a Indian tradition..And I am proud of that too) is not a crime and by now if nobody started it does not mean other people may not welcome it. If you are a Muslim, start the thread for EID Mubarak, I will be the first to welcome that step. You want to be American,, right? Then first start learning open mind and start respecting the culture of majority IV memebers first. If you would not start that now how will you settle yourself in cultural pot of the world?
If you are an Indian citizen right now take control over your inferiority complex and get over it because if you do not respect your culture or your tradition what guaranty would be there for Americans that you would respect American traditions in future. Even Americans are not fool. And how dare you pretend that people form China and other countries just stop supporting IV as they just see few threads celebrating Indian culture? So stop this bullshit now otherwise I may have to request moderators to ban you.
By the way Happy Diwali to you and your family.
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we have professional lobbyists. and they cost the erath.
and that is why we need contributions. as long people "don't believe" we don't succeed. it's up to you, it's your issue as much as mine. professionals cost a lot of money, and this thread is quibbling over 20 and 50 bucks. anyway who is the knight on the white horse coming to rescue us? it's just us buddy, and we have to do our best. i like your analytical thinking. we need you to join in and help. any number of volunteers is less imho...
.....if ppl want to contribute lesser amounts all they need to do is find some like minded friends pooling their resources and making it into a big one time contribution. I have tried to convince some of guys I know over here but to no avail....less said the better...also tried using the charm of a good bottle of scotch to do the job...no good.....but we need to keep trying......bickering will not lead us anywhere....
and that is why we need contributions. as long people "don't believe" we don't succeed. it's up to you, it's your issue as much as mine. professionals cost a lot of money, and this thread is quibbling over 20 and 50 bucks. anyway who is the knight on the white horse coming to rescue us? it's just us buddy, and we have to do our best. i like your analytical thinking. we need you to join in and help. any number of volunteers is less imho...
.....if ppl want to contribute lesser amounts all they need to do is find some like minded friends pooling their resources and making it into a big one time contribution. I have tried to convince some of guys I know over here but to no avail....less said the better...also tried using the charm of a good bottle of scotch to do the job...no good.....but we need to keep trying......bickering will not lead us anywhere....

gk_2000,
no need to stop laughing....ur loving kids will be laughing more loud than yours in future, when you become old.
if you have no parents...or no good parents...please don't post stupid comments.
i know, all honest people will support this.
this is not new...i saw a website for this....which was signed by 100's 1000's people...could not find it now.
all honest people will support what??
no need to stop laughing....ur loving kids will be laughing more loud than yours in future, when you become old.
if you have no parents...or no good parents...please don't post stupid comments.
i know, all honest people will support this.
this is not new...i saw a website for this....which was signed by 100's 1000's people...could not find it now.
all honest people will support what??
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Bad for consulting companies (no H1B; may lose job)
Bad for physicians (no H1B for medical residents; no provisions for NIW...terrible)
Bad for H1b transfers and extensions (severe restrictive provisions on H1B)
AC 21 repealed (disastrous)
Bad for pending I 140 .... left in limbo
Bad for pending LC .... left in complete limbo
Bad for retrogressed.... backlog will increase phenomenally 'cos of decreased visa numbers
This bill is a massive attack on us; we should put all our efforts to oppose and kill the bill. There is little chance that we can get amendments to reverse the potential damage that this bill can do... that is disaster for us.
Bad for physicians (no H1B for medical residents; no provisions for NIW...terrible)
Bad for H1b transfers and extensions (severe restrictive provisions on H1B)
AC 21 repealed (disastrous)
Bad for pending I 140 .... left in limbo
Bad for pending LC .... left in complete limbo
Bad for retrogressed.... backlog will increase phenomenally 'cos of decreased visa numbers
This bill is a massive attack on us; we should put all our efforts to oppose and kill the bill. There is little chance that we can get amendments to reverse the potential damage that this bill can do... that is disaster for us.
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What is the benefit of applying for an OCI card for the kids and how long does this process take?
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I have sent my contribution. May this encourage others to follow the suit!
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My kids didn' go to day care until they are 1.5 years old, then they want to babysitter , they started going to day care after 2.5 years. Day care is right place for kids after 2 years, because they need other kids to play, staying home is boring for them. I have personally experienced this.
Great memory! You remember your age 2 experience!!
No wonder why you're so successful!! ;)
Great memory! You remember your age 2 experience!!
No wonder why you're so successful!! ;)
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http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008173
It's hard for me to imagine this editorial (he did mention hi-tech workers) and lack of discourse over H1B Green cards negate the heroic efforts by IV.
Guys, this is just an editorial by a former Republican national committee chairman rooting for widening GOP political gains.
It's hard for me to imagine this editorial (he did mention hi-tech workers) and lack of discourse over H1B Green cards negate the heroic efforts by IV.
Guys, this is just an editorial by a former Republican national committee chairman rooting for widening GOP political gains.
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How's AC21 involved in this scenario ???? :confused:
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QT,
May be this is not a prediction thread. But the OP and some others are all about VB in another thread or two. While I personally dont have any issue with it, it just frustates me that people dont understand that VB is not going to do any magic for PD's in 2003 or later. C mon Lets be realistic. After doing all the math in so many threads, Does any one expect that the PD will be some where in the ending of 2003. Hell no. Then why is that we have a Dec Bulletin thread way back? Now some one is gonna come start a Jan prediction thread. Useless. I hate to comment on this but I hope people understand the difference between discussion as you said(which I personally agree) and useless predictions when they can make educated guess and do something else.
I am glad you agree with me that discussion is different from prediction!! As far as the futility of predictions go, I agree with you. the beauty of this thread is in seeing someone (like GCanyMinute) say that their PD is now current. while we commiserate about our condition, it is the ray of hope that keeps all of us sane does it not?
here is to cheering for people who are crossing the finish line :-))
May be this is not a prediction thread. But the OP and some others are all about VB in another thread or two. While I personally dont have any issue with it, it just frustates me that people dont understand that VB is not going to do any magic for PD's in 2003 or later. C mon Lets be realistic. After doing all the math in so many threads, Does any one expect that the PD will be some where in the ending of 2003. Hell no. Then why is that we have a Dec Bulletin thread way back? Now some one is gonna come start a Jan prediction thread. Useless. I hate to comment on this but I hope people understand the difference between discussion as you said(which I personally agree) and useless predictions when they can make educated guess and do something else.
I am glad you agree with me that discussion is different from prediction!! As far as the futility of predictions go, I agree with you. the beauty of this thread is in seeing someone (like GCanyMinute) say that their PD is now current. while we commiserate about our condition, it is the ray of hope that keeps all of us sane does it not?
here is to cheering for people who are crossing the finish line :-))
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Gave in and sent PP by Fedex yesterday for Schedule A, grp 2 case.My attorney did not advise me to PP nor did a legally brain I turn to for advice. He said its likely that I would get approved even during retrogression.
But I decided its better to know sooner than later, preferably before spouse started using EAD, and if a miracle happens (who can prevent miracles?) the 485 could also get approved concurrently with the 140.... And because I have 13 days more before retrogression hits. And because I saw people reportiing really qiuck turn around after PP. My employer was willing to pay half as well...
Well plus I did not want to be stuck in the general EB2 pool (India) which looks like its a black hole. I have an approved labor from 2004 there.(yet to file 140 for that one)..so didn't see a reason to be stuck there with a 2006 PD.
I still wonder if my reasons were sane and if my hasty action mght prevent my spouse from working -- if the 140 gets denied...Well, we'll take it as it comes..it may mean goodbye to the US or something..
BTW as far as I know, retrogression doesn't start till November 1st.
Bluekayal
Bluekayal
I had all paper work ready for PP and were sent to my Lawyer for premium processing of my Sch. A case. But retrogession occured that night in Nov. visa bulletin. So my lawyer advised me that it is not advantageous to go for it unless your date is current. So we did not filed it.
As I remeber you were not ready for premium process. Any reason or justification for rethinking your decision? let me know if you can outline some advatage of PP of Sch. A at this point, or have seen some cases which enjoyed some advantage due to PP very recently.
But I decided its better to know sooner than later, preferably before spouse started using EAD, and if a miracle happens (who can prevent miracles?) the 485 could also get approved concurrently with the 140.... And because I have 13 days more before retrogression hits. And because I saw people reportiing really qiuck turn around after PP. My employer was willing to pay half as well...
Well plus I did not want to be stuck in the general EB2 pool (India) which looks like its a black hole. I have an approved labor from 2004 there.(yet to file 140 for that one)..so didn't see a reason to be stuck there with a 2006 PD.
I still wonder if my reasons were sane and if my hasty action mght prevent my spouse from working -- if the 140 gets denied...Well, we'll take it as it comes..it may mean goodbye to the US or something..
BTW as far as I know, retrogression doesn't start till November 1st.
Bluekayal
Bluekayal
I had all paper work ready for PP and were sent to my Lawyer for premium processing of my Sch. A case. But retrogession occured that night in Nov. visa bulletin. So my lawyer advised me that it is not advantageous to go for it unless your date is current. So we did not filed it.
As I remeber you were not ready for premium process. Any reason or justification for rethinking your decision? let me know if you can outline some advatage of PP of Sch. A at this point, or have seen some cases which enjoyed some advantage due to PP very recently.
Rakesh, you are the first person to oppose my idea in a civil manner. A couple of guys in the forum supported the idea, but you are the first one to oppose it in a decent way. I wish IV core and other senior members show at least 50% your decency.
Mine was a just suggestion. If it is not a good one, we will not proceed with it. Your point makes perfect sense. But just as an information, many of the mortgage bonds were actually financed by oil money from the Middle East. Now a days those Sheiks are not that hot on investing in America.
Just curios, how come you have all those red dots?
Unless all of the 10,000 immigrants are going to bring money from their respective countries to buy homes, it is not going to change anything signficantly. You are proposing to take the money that is in the system, i.e asking banks to lend you money. The current crisis is credit crunch. Banks dont have money. All they have is mortgage bonds. There are no takers of these bonds. They are becoming junk. So, if any money from outside flows in, there will be some difference.
Mine was a just suggestion. If it is not a good one, we will not proceed with it. Your point makes perfect sense. But just as an information, many of the mortgage bonds were actually financed by oil money from the Middle East. Now a days those Sheiks are not that hot on investing in America.
Just curios, how come you have all those red dots?
Unless all of the 10,000 immigrants are going to bring money from their respective countries to buy homes, it is not going to change anything signficantly. You are proposing to take the money that is in the system, i.e asking banks to lend you money. The current crisis is credit crunch. Banks dont have money. All they have is mortgage bonds. There are no takers of these bonds. They are becoming junk. So, if any money from outside flows in, there will be some difference.
The Employment Based Immigration section explains how they will make a task force to prevent illegal workers from being exploited. I don't see anything for legal EB workers other than this 5 year thing which will start counting after this law is passed. :mad:
It says 5 years preceding from the date this law is enacted. Does this not mean that they will look 5 years back from the date this law is enacted?
Also i do not see them say it is for illegals only...
I do not think they would make it easier for illegals than legal residents.
I am not very optimistic about this . But i would definately like to see this pass.
It says 5 years preceding from the date this law is enacted. Does this not mean that they will look 5 years back from the date this law is enacted?
Also i do not see them say it is for illegals only...
I do not think they would make it easier for illegals than legal residents.
I am not very optimistic about this . But i would definately like to see this pass.