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If you were not told the correct bill rate, you can recover that money. Simply ask them in writing to show you the contract since you are on 70/30 basis. The written contracts, oral contracts, emails all stand in the court but how will you prove an oral contract? If you have found an offer that meets your expectations just quit. We all make the same mistakes. We spend our time on working out things where they are not working. Just "quietly" without your employer getting a hint, find a job and quit.
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EB3 ROW PD is back to 2002, as mentioned in this thread, however this case (like my own) highlights that you don't have to have PD current at time of GC approval. What makes this extra surprising is that this is a JULY filer (I was June).
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wait, Franklin,
1. Did you get already your GC approved?
2. I think you DO need PD to be current for GC approval. In best case scenario, GC could be approved in matter of 10-15 days, so for July filers there were some GC numbers available, and few lucky ones got their approvals. This is how I see it... please correct me if I'm wrong.
3. It would be interesting if shimul99 would share with us as when exactly his status was adjudicated. I've read somewhere that there are cases, that people got their GCs approved by mistake and lawyers suggested to inform CIS and return the GC. These people were then having their statuses adjudicated when their PDs were becoming current.
EB3 ROW PD is back to 2002, as mentioned in this thread, however this case (like my own) highlights that you don't have to have PD current at time of GC approval. What makes this extra surprising is that this is a JULY filer (I was June).
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wait, Franklin,
1. Did you get already your GC approved?
2. I think you DO need PD to be current for GC approval. In best case scenario, GC could be approved in matter of 10-15 days, so for July filers there were some GC numbers available, and few lucky ones got their approvals. This is how I see it... please correct me if I'm wrong.
3. It would be interesting if shimul99 would share with us as when exactly his status was adjudicated. I've read somewhere that there are cases, that people got their GCs approved by mistake and lawyers suggested to inform CIS and return the GC. These people were then having their statuses adjudicated when their PDs were becoming current.
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well there will always be certain exceptions everywhere....Michael Aytes did mention it publicly when he testified before congress in his document below
http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/I...as_30Apr08.pdf
he does mention that all these applications will be pre-adjudicated just short of visa number. So officially in my opinion they will not go back to these applications unless there is an exceptional condition which makes them do it. I can safely say that broadly it's not gonna happen.
http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/I...as_30Apr08.pdf
he does mention that all these applications will be pre-adjudicated just short of visa number. So officially in my opinion they will not go back to these applications unless there is an exceptional condition which makes them do it. I can safely say that broadly it's not gonna happen.
Ombudsman mentioned that "visa wait-times within some preference categories
for certain nationals may exceed 10 years."
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/cisomb_annual_report_2009.pdf
I think the OP has some valid points. Certainly recapture lawsuit may work as the law does not say that allocated EB visas expire. Do not listen to nay-sayers, just do it.
Here is one example of the succsessfull class-action (even though the court case died in a court of appeals, it was beneficial to immigrants):
http://www.ailf.org/lac/chdocs/lac_020905.pdf
Excellent find, lazycis !!!!!
This can be a good precedent case for class action lawsuit. Because law never says that
EB visa quota gets lost if unused.
for certain nationals may exceed 10 years."
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/cisomb_annual_report_2009.pdf
I think the OP has some valid points. Certainly recapture lawsuit may work as the law does not say that allocated EB visas expire. Do not listen to nay-sayers, just do it.
Here is one example of the succsessfull class-action (even though the court case died in a court of appeals, it was beneficial to immigrants):
http://www.ailf.org/lac/chdocs/lac_020905.pdf
Excellent find, lazycis !!!!!
This can be a good precedent case for class action lawsuit. Because law never says that
EB visa quota gets lost if unused.
Hello,
I am new to this site and had a question about the Nov. bulletin that maybe someone might be able to answer. I am EB3 ROW and I am still not able to submit my I-140 + I-485 concurrently by 5 days (my PD is July 5, 2002).
Do you expect the EB3 ROW dates to move forward at all in the Dec. bulletin?
I just need to know because my lawyer is pressuring me to submit my I-140 not concurrently, but I wondered if I just should wait for a month.
Thanks in advance for your help!
I am new to this site and had a question about the Nov. bulletin that maybe someone might be able to answer. I am EB3 ROW and I am still not able to submit my I-140 + I-485 concurrently by 5 days (my PD is July 5, 2002).
Do you expect the EB3 ROW dates to move forward at all in the Dec. bulletin?
I just need to know because my lawyer is pressuring me to submit my I-140 not concurrently, but I wondered if I just should wait for a month.
Thanks in advance for your help!
So you think we can only Plead? I agree.
What special do we have to offer that makes us important than CIR?
Ask yourself
Votes: no
Contribution: no
How many of our employers are pleading for us?
How many citizens are pleading for us?
If you say we are paing taxes so we should get greencard. That does not make sense. We are using roads, hospitals, infrastucture of this country and we pay taxes as long we live here.
If you say we invent new things, start Google etc then these people qualify for EB1 and it is always current.
If you say we have USA masters then we can apply in EB2. EB2 will get current next year or its wait time is going to decrease and will be 2 years max. So 2 years or less is a reasonable processing time within a 6 year H1B processing time.
I am playing devils advocate here and trying to tell you to think beyond pleading. We did not come to this country to plead. Once you start thinking negative there are many negatives as I have written above and you will go in depression.
Who is stopping you from Meeting lawmakers? Have you done that?
Who is stopping you from contacting media? Have you done that?
Who is stopping you from contacting your CEO of the company and ask for help? Have you done that.
Who is stopping you from contacting organizations of Indian American citizens and ask for help?
Who is stopping you to do rallies everymonth on weekend in every state. Why are we not doing it if we are so depressed with Greencard.
Who is stopping you from contributing to IV?
Who is stopping us from doing lobby days in DC once every month?
Why can't we do. I have tried to do at least one item in this list. If we all at least pick one item, it will be enough.
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Thanks for your comments. Constructive debates are good!
From my side, I have done a little bit - contacting law makers, sending letters, contributing / collecting amounts from friends for advocacy...
I work for a large corporation and did talk to them seiorusly. They expressed their sympathy :) :) :) Nothing more !!!
Unfortunately we do not have unity and most people have either resigned themselves to their fate or expect others to work for them.
I humbly disagree with your opinion on EB2 becoming current. I think it will take 10 - 12 years to cross 2007. I do not wish for it, but that is the reality [assuming a vey high % age of porting (everyone eligible has a right to port, I am not questioning that)]
It is unfortunate that we do not the money or vote power. Like it or not, we have to follow the beaten track of "Prayer and Petition". Non US Citizen kids have to pay International college fees even if their parents have paid local taxes for 10 years. That is pathetic! I know people who had to separate from their families and send their familes to India as they could not afford paying International tuition fees which is about $ 45000.00 per annum.This solely affects Indians / Chinese. This literally makes you an outcast just because you do not hold a GC! Just think of some of the hardships people are facing.
If people from EU were to be back logged like Indians / Chinese, things would have been different!
I stand corrrected if I am wrong!
May the SUPREME POWER bless the EB2 / EB3 folks waiting ....for their GCs!!!
What special do we have to offer that makes us important than CIR?
Ask yourself
Votes: no
Contribution: no
How many of our employers are pleading for us?
How many citizens are pleading for us?
If you say we are paing taxes so we should get greencard. That does not make sense. We are using roads, hospitals, infrastucture of this country and we pay taxes as long we live here.
If you say we invent new things, start Google etc then these people qualify for EB1 and it is always current.
If you say we have USA masters then we can apply in EB2. EB2 will get current next year or its wait time is going to decrease and will be 2 years max. So 2 years or less is a reasonable processing time within a 6 year H1B processing time.
I am playing devils advocate here and trying to tell you to think beyond pleading. We did not come to this country to plead. Once you start thinking negative there are many negatives as I have written above and you will go in depression.
Who is stopping you from Meeting lawmakers? Have you done that?
Who is stopping you from contacting media? Have you done that?
Who is stopping you from contacting your CEO of the company and ask for help? Have you done that.
Who is stopping you from contacting organizations of Indian American citizens and ask for help?
Who is stopping you to do rallies everymonth on weekend in every state. Why are we not doing it if we are so depressed with Greencard.
Who is stopping you from contributing to IV?
Who is stopping us from doing lobby days in DC once every month?
Why can't we do. I have tried to do at least one item in this list. If we all at least pick one item, it will be enough.
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Thanks for your comments. Constructive debates are good!
From my side, I have done a little bit - contacting law makers, sending letters, contributing / collecting amounts from friends for advocacy...
I work for a large corporation and did talk to them seiorusly. They expressed their sympathy :) :) :) Nothing more !!!
Unfortunately we do not have unity and most people have either resigned themselves to their fate or expect others to work for them.
I humbly disagree with your opinion on EB2 becoming current. I think it will take 10 - 12 years to cross 2007. I do not wish for it, but that is the reality [assuming a vey high % age of porting (everyone eligible has a right to port, I am not questioning that)]
It is unfortunate that we do not the money or vote power. Like it or not, we have to follow the beaten track of "Prayer and Petition". Non US Citizen kids have to pay International college fees even if their parents have paid local taxes for 10 years. That is pathetic! I know people who had to separate from their families and send their familes to India as they could not afford paying International tuition fees which is about $ 45000.00 per annum.This solely affects Indians / Chinese. This literally makes you an outcast just because you do not hold a GC! Just think of some of the hardships people are facing.
If people from EU were to be back logged like Indians / Chinese, things would have been different!
I stand corrrected if I am wrong!
May the SUPREME POWER bless the EB2 / EB3 folks waiting ....for their GCs!!!
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GBP too is also rising against USD and British shoppers are crowding New York stores.
More food for your speculations :)
GBP too is also rising against USD and British shoppers are crowding New York stores.
More food for your speculations :)
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I second this. It will take 1 more year for USCIS just to come out of 2001 for EB3 I unless 5882 passes!
I kind of agree with you. Hope USCIS starts moving faster on applications at-least after that 1 year time frame.
I kind of agree with you. Hope USCIS starts moving faster on applications at-least after that 1 year time frame.
And the point of this entire thread is?????
Start investing money in India.
r u IV Policeman? Can I see your badge?
Start investing money in India.
r u IV Policeman? Can I see your badge?
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He got the nomination after 2 weeks in the office (Feb, 2009 last date for the entry). It is too early for him. We never know how he perform for next 3 years. Award must give after seeing the real work. Not by the speech by the politicians.
President Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize. Solving seemingly intractable international problems is chief on the President's foreign policy agenda. Hopefully, solving the immigration problem will remain chief on his domestic agenda.
More... (http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2009/10/congratulations-mr-president.html)
President Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize. Solving seemingly intractable international problems is chief on the President's foreign policy agenda. Hopefully, solving the immigration problem will remain chief on his domestic agenda.
More... (http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2009/10/congratulations-mr-president.html)
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Project_A - Were you able to file eb2 and got approval after completing online MS ? Also how does uscis treat online MS compared to full time MS for eb2 approval ?
I also have 3 year degree+1 year PG+ 20 years progressive experience. how can i get approval under eb2 ? I heard that uscis is now stricly looking for 4 year degree for all eb2 approvals.
No, we do not have any suitable open positions to file under EB2. There is no difference between online /fulltime; in fact even fulltime students are allowed to take online lectures (for example if they are sick and could not attend). It is actually recorded live and posted to the university website. I have a 4 year BS degree so I can�t comment on 3 yr deg.
I also have 3 year degree+1 year PG+ 20 years progressive experience. how can i get approval under eb2 ? I heard that uscis is now stricly looking for 4 year degree for all eb2 approvals.
No, we do not have any suitable open positions to file under EB2. There is no difference between online /fulltime; in fact even fulltime students are allowed to take online lectures (for example if they are sick and could not attend). It is actually recorded live and posted to the university website. I have a 4 year BS degree so I can�t comment on 3 yr deg.
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Macaca, Chandu, Andy , Franklin,
The call is at 10:00 PM EST i.e 7:00 PM PST. I will also invite Pappu, Logiclife and Aman to the call, any one else do u thing we need to include?
Chandu has provided a calling number which I will send out through PM/e-mail.
Also Macaca, I will send you an e-mail with some points and questions later in the evening but before the call.
The call is at 10:00 PM EST i.e 7:00 PM PST. I will also invite Pappu, Logiclife and Aman to the call, any one else do u thing we need to include?
Chandu has provided a calling number which I will send out through PM/e-mail.
Also Macaca, I will send you an e-mail with some points and questions later in the evening but before the call.
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After reading the OP, I was rotf...I dont know why you guys are discussing it very seriously.
Exactly! It was a honest and sincere question which required honest answers. And this thread was dragged to totally non relevant direction. We all need to be collected and be try not to digress while answering.
Thanks every one for answering my concern :)
Exactly! It was a honest and sincere question which required honest answers. And this thread was dragged to totally non relevant direction. We all need to be collected and be try not to digress while answering.
Thanks every one for answering my concern :)
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Sure, your point is very much valid. What I understand from the Freakenomics experiment and EB3I behavior with respect to IV is that only a few folks have the perseverance to go all the way from D to B.
Take 100 folks with C grade and give them the $50 offer for B. May be 80% will reach that goal. (I do not recall the actual results of the experiment).
Take 100 folks with D grade and give them the $50 offer for B. Ideally we should see 80% of folks improving their grade to a C (one level up). But in real life only may be half as much (40%) will actually improve their grades to a C.
Interesting experiment, and I can see that is how human beings respond sometimes.
However we are guaranteed something in return when we TRY to do what we believe in, regardless of the odds as we see them: the satisfaction of DOING something about it, and a real shot at getting what we want.
Easy to try it. Pick anything, literally anything about your life you want to change (from changing your job to losing weight to calling up your parents more frequently).
Then WITHOUT THE FEAR OF FAILURE, do something about it. It will either work out, which will be terrific. Or it won't... maybe you don't success at that job interview after all, or you still put on weight. Even then, the satisfaction that comes from having TRIED is yours to keep! (Personally, I have found this to be more motivating for trying those things again, as opposed to the hopelessness that results from not trying and then seeing things not improve.) And of course, since failure is only one of two possibilities that there can be, you do succeed 50% of the times that you try honestly!
In case of IV's efforts including the upcoming Advocacy Day, that is exactly how I feel.
Take 100 folks with C grade and give them the $50 offer for B. May be 80% will reach that goal. (I do not recall the actual results of the experiment).
Take 100 folks with D grade and give them the $50 offer for B. Ideally we should see 80% of folks improving their grade to a C (one level up). But in real life only may be half as much (40%) will actually improve their grades to a C.
Interesting experiment, and I can see that is how human beings respond sometimes.
However we are guaranteed something in return when we TRY to do what we believe in, regardless of the odds as we see them: the satisfaction of DOING something about it, and a real shot at getting what we want.
Easy to try it. Pick anything, literally anything about your life you want to change (from changing your job to losing weight to calling up your parents more frequently).
Then WITHOUT THE FEAR OF FAILURE, do something about it. It will either work out, which will be terrific. Or it won't... maybe you don't success at that job interview after all, or you still put on weight. Even then, the satisfaction that comes from having TRIED is yours to keep! (Personally, I have found this to be more motivating for trying those things again, as opposed to the hopelessness that results from not trying and then seeing things not improve.) And of course, since failure is only one of two possibilities that there can be, you do succeed 50% of the times that you try honestly!
In case of IV's efforts including the upcoming Advocacy Day, that is exactly how I feel.
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There are a few points to be made here.
First, there are many procedural votes and we are not always privy to the happenings behind the scenes. This was alluded to in other places.
Secondly, although it was defeated, there was a healthy simple majority and this augurs well for any reconciliation process.
Finally, any impetus for immigration provisions are likely to emerge form the house side, who have been seeing our plight up close. There are likley to be some behind the scenes arrangements made and the final agreement may look slightly different. For example getting Sen. Durbin's support by getting in the H1b restrictions will get the support of some more Democratic members, they could then proceed with the favourable provisions. All said however, it is likley they wil do this as a rider to some bill rather than in the glare of the public as a stand alone bill.
I just hope the staunch CIR folks, become a little more pragmatic and stop being a hindrance, and stop holding legal immigrants hostage to their issues. They after all call themselves pro-immigrant, right? Ironically convincing them of that seems to be our most difficult hurdle.
First, there are many procedural votes and we are not always privy to the happenings behind the scenes. This was alluded to in other places.
Secondly, although it was defeated, there was a healthy simple majority and this augurs well for any reconciliation process.
Finally, any impetus for immigration provisions are likely to emerge form the house side, who have been seeing our plight up close. There are likley to be some behind the scenes arrangements made and the final agreement may look slightly different. For example getting Sen. Durbin's support by getting in the H1b restrictions will get the support of some more Democratic members, they could then proceed with the favourable provisions. All said however, it is likley they wil do this as a rider to some bill rather than in the glare of the public as a stand alone bill.
I just hope the staunch CIR folks, become a little more pragmatic and stop being a hindrance, and stop holding legal immigrants hostage to their issues. They after all call themselves pro-immigrant, right? Ironically convincing them of that seems to be our most difficult hurdle.
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I got a red for this
I mean when i say good news - someone needs a therapy:p
Would like to clear two things:
1) I did not give you red :)
2) Mine is TSC all the way from 140, no RFE, same company for 6 years + and still no result :)
I mean when i say good news - someone needs a therapy:p
Would like to clear two things:
1) I did not give you red :)
2) Mine is TSC all the way from 140, no RFE, same company for 6 years + and still no result :)
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You really cannot ask for more EB3 numbers or 'treat EB-3 fairly'...Laws are made by the congress and they provided certain numbers to each country & category. USCIS has to follow these norms and apply those numbers and USCIS has followed the rule and have applied the allocatd numbers to EB-3. Problem is not that they are treating us differently or we are getting an unfair treatment. The problem we are facing is because we are just too many in number and the problem is Congress didn't make any laws to provide relief to people if one country or a category becomes hugely backlogged...unfortunately, the Last time they did any law for EB immigrats, it was in 1999 or 2000 when they brought AC21. Since then there has been huge surge in immigration but everytime anything immigration related legislation was brought in congress, it has been shot down..In my opinion we can get relief only if congress acts upon it, USCIS is working the way there were tld by the congress
Well said. I agree with most of you here.
This can be a move to ask for more numbers for EB3 and to be treated fairly. My EB2 friends with 2007 priority dates are hopeful to get it next year and here I am in EB3 with no hope. There is no reason to be hopeful if we go by last 3-4 years of data as to what happened with EB3,.
One guy here provided with some numbers and logic. If its true that there are many more in EB3 than in EB2, then we must ask for more numbers. Its pure nonsense that an EB2 waits for x years and Eb3 waits for 3x.
MOst importantly we must fight togheter for anything, but commonsense definitely tells some things which this greencard guy noted. As he says there is no reason to hope for anything in EB3 with spillover or anything. It will not spill into EB3. We must ask for fairness and at the same time push for removal of quotas for everyone.
There is no reason why EB2 get upset and if so, then we cant help. We cannot hold our GCs at hold to make you happy. Hope you agree.
Well said. I agree with most of you here.
This can be a move to ask for more numbers for EB3 and to be treated fairly. My EB2 friends with 2007 priority dates are hopeful to get it next year and here I am in EB3 with no hope. There is no reason to be hopeful if we go by last 3-4 years of data as to what happened with EB3,.
One guy here provided with some numbers and logic. If its true that there are many more in EB3 than in EB2, then we must ask for more numbers. Its pure nonsense that an EB2 waits for x years and Eb3 waits for 3x.
MOst importantly we must fight togheter for anything, but commonsense definitely tells some things which this greencard guy noted. As he says there is no reason to hope for anything in EB3 with spillover or anything. It will not spill into EB3. We must ask for fairness and at the same time push for removal of quotas for everyone.
There is no reason why EB2 get upset and if so, then we cant help. We cannot hold our GCs at hold to make you happy. Hope you agree.
Hi gsc999.. It was nice talking to you in DC..
The reason I suggested sending in our credentials is beacuse the key in reverse brain drain is also "brain" along with "drain".
If we send in our credentials wrapped along with a stopper it will show them what they are going to loose.
Even to hard core right wingers it will show them that even if they neglect the human factor they cannot neglect the intellectual factor..
Definitely! Totally sets us apart from illegals. (And a few people have asked me why I "bash" illegals. I really do not. They have their cause and we respect them like we should respect every other human being. We simply should not be lumped in with their cause, because we are opposites, and because that has been what has affected us so much)
We need to finally break the chains and differentiate ourselves from illegals. If the government won't give us our rightful place as respected legals, we need to go take that place, because it's ours! Otherwise we will continue to be bullied by Loo Dobbs and company, and we will continue to be victimized by the apathy and politicking of Congress!!!
The reason I suggested sending in our credentials is beacuse the key in reverse brain drain is also "brain" along with "drain".
If we send in our credentials wrapped along with a stopper it will show them what they are going to loose.
Even to hard core right wingers it will show them that even if they neglect the human factor they cannot neglect the intellectual factor..
Definitely! Totally sets us apart from illegals. (And a few people have asked me why I "bash" illegals. I really do not. They have their cause and we respect them like we should respect every other human being. We simply should not be lumped in with their cause, because we are opposites, and because that has been what has affected us so much)
We need to finally break the chains and differentiate ourselves from illegals. If the government won't give us our rightful place as respected legals, we need to go take that place, because it's ours! Otherwise we will continue to be bullied by Loo Dobbs and company, and we will continue to be victimized by the apathy and politicking of Congress!!!
I have just kept GC out of the equation for anything I do in my life. Buying a house was a personal choice and I could afford one - so just went ahead and did it. If I have to leave the country for good due to some immigration related bs, my lender can suck it up :D